I am not overly confident the US would have acted any differently to China had Covid -19 started in their own country.
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I am not overly confident the US would have acted any differently to China had Covid -19 started in their own country.
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From an article published by Slate this afternoon:
One person who has expressed a more skeptical view of chloroquine is task force member and immunologist Anthony Fauci, the veteran face of the country’s response to disease outbreaks. But Fauci has not appeared at a press conference since Tuesday, when Trump said he had “become a major television star.”
Fauci for the past two days had been saying that chloroquine is not a miracle cure and that we still need to determine its safety.
Speaking to Laura Ingraham on Fox News on Tuesday, Fauci said, “We have to be careful, Laura, that we don’t assume something works based on an anecdotal report that’s not controlled. And I refer specifically to hydroxychloroquine. There’s a lot of buzz out there on the internet on the social media about that.”
On Wednesday, he reiterated this message in an interview with CNN’s Chris Cuomo, saying he supported large-scale clinical trials but was against “just throwing the drug out there, which is not a good idea.”
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The villain-blaming is IMO only an unfortunate result of certain parties refusing to take responsibility for their own actions (rooted as it may be in negligence, pride or short-sightedness.)Originally Posted by Edwin Santos
I agree, let us remember the afflicted Italians.
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70 years after it first came on the market. Hmm.
The biggest danger that I can see if the virus mutated to thwart its effectiveness, which is why it might only make sense to use it against the "hard cases".
The real horror might start if people started using it indiscriminately on farm animals? Are the anti-malarial drugs still effective on people? In the meantime, there is hope...
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There are several "Old Drugs" being used for new treatments. Metforman for breast cancer, Tavist for MS just name a couple. I don't trust the numbers coming out of China now, or then. Because they are basically a closed society, we don't hear about Iran.
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I see Fauci's statement as just sticking to the standard schtick. The doc's as a group have to , anyone straying from
it will get bad press coverage from the group leaders and lobbyists. I believe many of them will try it if they catch the
stuff. But being discreet is a must.
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I see this 'cure' as not much more than certain people grasping at straws hoping to get lucky enough to find something already available that just might actually work, quickly enough to boost or save their images, and maybe even some lives. But 5 minutes of googling how antivirals and Malaria meds work has me shaking my head on this one. While there's lots of complexities involved I'll never know and understand, hopefully they WILL get lucky with this Malaria stuff... But it just seems a little too much like trying to find out if you can kill locusts with d-CON... I'm hoping, but not holding my breath.
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ELEVEN - rotary cutter tool machines
FOUR - CO2 lasers
THREE- make that FOUR now- fiber lasers
ONE - vinyl cutter
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Google "H. pylori Barry Marshall" in the context of ulcers for an interesting story about how a simpler answer to what was earlier thought to be a complex problem, was resolved, and how it was scoffed at for a while, resulting in much prolonged suffering, until it eventually resulted in a Nobel Prize. Not that this is directly relevant here, but it's a great story. There was a terrific New Yorker (?) article about it twenty-some years ago.
All hands on deck, and NOW, etc.
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I was thinking of that one too Doug. It IS a good story.
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“If you want to know what a man's like, take a good look at how he treats his inferiors, not his equals.”
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In Dickinson, Galveston County, Texas we are told to shelter in place.
I am not going anywhere. I did put the trash out this morning.
It will be interesting to see if the garbage truck comes today.
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Sure hope so. Else soon there will be worse "bugs" than covid-19 to worry about....
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
“If you want to know what a man's like, take a good look at how he treats his inferiors, not his equals.”
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Today was our garbage day and the trucks came by on schedule.
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Go into the world and do well. But more importantly, go into the world and do good.
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There was a news report today that supplies of the associated drugs are running short at area pharmacies, with the explicit implication that doctors are "hoarding" them to handle issues with their own staff, etc.
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Naay .....No such thing as "explicit implication". There's some good news !
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Most insurance companies are allowing and encouraging members to get a 90 day supply rather than 30 day supply. This automatically triples the demand
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