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Google it first and watch a couple videos.
It’s like the fast cap CA glue and two parts. You dont have much time to do your work so you gotta have your system dialed. But it’s bomb proof.
I found it when I contacted Martin to ask what they use. To this day Martin still uses the same glued on hardened steel ways as on my saw for 1974.
Is sure what you gluing is metal on metal?
Originally Posted by Jared Sankovich
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The ways are steel, they seem more like spring steel than hardened and ground though.
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Same thing just not as beefy.
It’s metal though so this stuff still work.
I’d remove the piece in full. Then clean spotless both the loos piece and machine side. Like spotless as anything left behind will result in the way no seating prefects flat.
I don’t know about casolin or your machine but Martin used copper wire I think 14g to space the two ways at the v groove. If you change this or dot. Glue it back on exact it could affect the calibration done at the factory of the sliding table. Also if there is wear in the ways “a grove worn” the bearing or wheel may no longer travel in it or it could hop in and out of the groove if glued back on crooked.
None of it’s a big deal but just get your system for gluing foaled first. I used wood 45% cauls I made in the ts. I then clamped them like every 3” or something stupid.
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Looks like I need new steel. Its .045" thick x .350" wide. Soft enough the balls wore a slight groove in them. Off to search for suitable replacements.
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Oh boy your really committed and getting into this.
I just love getting a good machine fever
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Lol.. Just looking to fix some previous owner issues. Looks like McMaster has something close .042x.375 wear resistant spring steel (60 Rockwell)Oh boy your really committed and getting into this.
I just love getting a good machine fever
https://www.mcmaster.com/9075k414
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Doesn’t look flat in both sides.
Is yours?
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Generally, but it certainly not ground. Im not sure I believe the graphic on McMaster is a 100% accurate representation of the profile. I'd expect it to be flat.
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It's my fault but ordering from McMaster on a phone leaves something to be desired.. thought I ordered the aa330 with the activator.. nope.
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Crazy: That's literally the first time I've ever seen a metal guideway de-laminate like that. I have no idea what type of adhesive they use but we routinely serviced 30+ year-old saws back in my Italian days. Plenty of rusted guideways but never seen one peel off like that. I wonder if this machine got sprayed with a solvent or something? Jared, thanks for sharing progress pics. Fascinating stuff.
Erik
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I wiped down the residue with an acetone soaked rag and it didn't soften, so I'm not sure what the issue was. Either way it's a relatively straightforward fix. Hopefully the hardened steel and loctite helps the longevity this time.
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Last edited by Jared Sankovich; 03-29-2020 at 4:18 PM.
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The slider is a slider again
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Very nice, good repair!
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It’s such a satisfying feeling when it’s all back together and the dial indicator saiz you did a good job....
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My power source finally showed up.
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