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    The Incredible Woodmaster CT

    On the left is a 10" wide piece of walnut that I face jointed. On the right is a veneer slice from the same board manually cut with a Woodmaster CT 1" x 1.3 tpi on my 17" BS.




    I know several of you get tired of me saying this but I well anyway. Blade tension was about 25 ksi. Deviation in the veneer thickness was less than 0.005" over the 4' length.

    Some folks favor the Tri-Master, but I just can't believe the cut quality can be much better than the CT and the CT costs about $75 less. Maybe the Tri-Master lasts longer since it has more teeth, reducing the difference in $/ft^2 cut; don't know.

    John
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    I see this instead of a photo:

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    Maybe now?

    John

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    What is your saw? And what are the guides?

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    Nice veneer slice from that CT blade John.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamie Buxton View Post
    What is your saw? And what are the guides?
    Grizzly G0636X; 5 HP, 4500 fpm. Stock roller bearing guides. I set them per the manual but really don't think they play any role in this.

    John

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    Looks amazing, I will have to order one to try. Thanks.

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    +1 on the woodmaster ct 1.3

    This was a off cut where i was not concerned with cut quality I was just hogging off material as fast as I could reasonably push the stock through the blade.

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    Wow, that is Just incredible John!
    That's quite the brick outhouse of a machine weighing the same as my 24" .

    Out of curiosity how good of a cut can you achieve on that saw using a regular blade?I

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    Yeah, it's a very robust saw. Had quite an adventure getting it down the stairs into my basement shop. Never coming back out!

    The cut quality from the Woodmaster C blades I use when not using the CT is not quite as consistent and definitely not as smooth. To help improve the smoothness I normally use a 2 tpi version. It's very curious, the CT blades are not affected by changes in wood grain, etc. like the C's are. The CT cuts at a constant pace and the sound doesn't change unless you hit a knot. With the C blades the pace varies even though I'm trying to keep it constant, and the sound changes with the pace. It sometimes gets a harmonic, for lack of a better term, and the cut quality is always rougher when that happens. Still, I have sliced a lot of veneer with 2 tpi Woodmaster C blades and can get 1/16" (0.063") after drum sanding if the slices are about 0.105". With the CT I can easily drop down to 0.085 - 0.090" and probably less if I tried. Sometimes that gives me an extra slice out of a board, but the real advantage is in less time at the drum sander, or not even having to drum sand it before vacuum bagging it onto a substrate.

    John

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    That is a well tuned saw, a well matched blade, and the tension sweet spot. I run a Trimaster but only because i found several for half price. You can't do better than what you have. Thanks for the pics. Dave

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    Quote Originally Posted by John TenEyck View Post
    Maybe now?

    John
    Yes, I can see the picture now. Very smooth cut.

    I have a couple of Tri-iMaster, but they are 1/2"x3tpi. The cut is pretty smooth on my 18" Rikon but not that smooth.

    What is Ksi? Does it mean 1000 psi? I set the 1/2" Tri-Master for less than 20,000 psi. Do you think I should use higher tension? I have a Starrett tension gauge.

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    There always seems to be a lot of questions about guides. Once you have one of these, and a saw that will tension it, the guides don't matter much. It not only cuts smoothly, but so fast that it seems like it's a different type of machine, after using a 14" saw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom M King View Post
    There always seems to be a lot of questions about guides. Once you have one of these, and a saw that will tension it, the guides don't matter much. It not only cuts smoothly, but so fast that it seems like it's a different type of machine, after using a 14" saw.
    I'm going to guess the thrust bearing is not being engaged much with a wide blade at high tension like that.

    I have wondered why Lenox offers that blade in both a 1.3 and a 2tpi.
    I have the 2tpi. Other than feed rate, what might I gain with a 1.3tpi?

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    John, that's an impressive cut. You've sold me for sure!
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