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    Quote Originally Posted by Warren Mickley View Post
    You are missing the whole point, Rafael. They don't just use crappy mineral oil in honing oils. They use a more highly refined oil, which explains the price differential. Is this over your head?
    Now for the real question: Does it matter? Enough to be 100x the cost?

    I honestly have never seen anything to suggest that it does, so I just use what is on-hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mike stenson View Post
    Now for the real question: Does it matter? Enough to be 100x the cost?

    I honestly have never seen anything to suggest that it does, so I just use what is on-hand.
    Over the last 59 years I have used motor oil, kerosene, oil and kerosene mixed, olive oil, mineral oil, Fiebings neatsfoot oil, baby oil, thread cutting oil (dark and light), lather, 3-in-one oil, Smith's honing oil, and Norton's honing oil. They all work. What is the best? Honing oil, not such a surprise.

    Traditional oils are olive oil, used since ancient times, and sperm oil.

    Norton's oil is $17 a quart. Some guys are constantly changing stones, which is much more expensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warren Mickley View Post
    Over the last 59 years I have used motor oil, kerosene, oil and kerosene mixed, olive oil, mineral oil, Fiebings neatsfoot oil, baby oil, thread cutting oil (dark and light), lather, 3-in-one oil, Smith's honing oil, and Norton's honing oil. They all work. What is the best? Honing oil, not such a surprise.

    Traditional oils are olive oil, used since ancient times, and sperm oil.

    Norton's oil is $17 a quart. Some guys are constantly changing stones, which is much more expensive.

    I use the Norton oil also, Warren. Yes, it is more expensive. No, I don't care. I spend a lot of hours in the shop, most of it hand work, and I don't remember when I bought the last quart. Probably close to 2 years ago, and I need to order more soon. So…8 or 9 bucks a year? Doesn't seem much of a price to pay for something that is easy to obtain and clearly delivers better results.
    Moreover, it is disturbing to see the lengths people will go to to save a couple bucks. Kerosene is terrible for you and flammable as hell. I assume diesel oil or whatever is the same. WD-40 is too thin and also carries risks from long term exposure. The laxative mineral oil is garbage; it is way too thick, especially on a fine stone. I was sorry to see a recommendation for that and feel bad for anyone who wasted their money. Oh well, I guess you can use it if you're feeling a bit stopped up.
    Priorities, people. Look at the big picture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Voigt View Post
    I use the Norton oil also, Warren. Yes, it is more expensive. No, I don't care. I spend a lot of hours in the shop, most of it hand work, and I don't remember when I bought the last quart. Probably close to 2 years ago, and I need to order more soon. So…8 or 9 bucks a year? Doesn't seem much of a price to pay for something that is easy to obtain and clearly delivers better results.
    Moreover, it is disturbing to see the lengths people will go to to save a couple bucks. Kerosene is terrible for you and flammable as hell. I assume diesel oil or whatever is the same. WD-40 is too thin and also carries risks from long term exposure. The laxative mineral oil is garbage; it is way too thick, especially on a fine stone. I was sorry to see a recommendation for that and feel bad for anyone who wasted their money. Oh well, I guess you can use it if you're feeling a bit stopped up.
    Priorities, people. Look at the big picture.
    Steve; for a lousy $6 bucks a year you could also stop being a freeloader on this forum site.

    regards Stewie;

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stewie Simpson View Post
    Steve; for a lousy $6 bucks a year you could also stop being a freeloader on this forum site.

    regards Stewie;

    Haha, good one Stewie. But I'm saving the 6 bucks to buy you a grammar manual so you can stop serially abusing semicolons.
    "For me, chairs and chairmaking are a means to an end. My real goal is to spend my days in a quiet, dustless shop doing hand work on an object that is beautiful, useful and fun to make." --Peter Galbert

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Voigt View Post
    Haha, good one Stewie. But I'm saving the 6 bucks to buy you a grammar manual so you can stop serially abusing semicolons.
    I laughed out loud reading this one. Yes, I am one of those people.

    Your 6 bucks would be wasted on a grammar manual: I’d suggest a punctuation manual instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Bulatowicz View Post
    I laughed out loud reading this one. Yes, I am one of those people.

    Your 6 bucks would be wasted on a grammar manual: I’d suggest a punctuation manual instead.
    First, be kind. Everyone here has always been so to me....

    That said, you guys are cracking me up a little bit and it makes think of something that my 14 year old daughter said to me yesterday in response to people calling a spider poisonous.

    That spider is poisonous if you eat it and die. That spider is venomous if it bites you and you die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Pitonyak View Post
    First, be kind. Everyone here has always been so to me....

    That said, you guys are cracking me up a little bit and it makes think of something that my 14 year old daughter said to me yesterday in response to people calling a spider poisonous.

    That spider is poisonous if you eat it and die. That spider is venomous if it bites you and you die.
    I took the comment string as good-natured ribbing and my reply was intended as a continuation thereof. I apologize if it seemed otherwise.

    That said, I like your daughter’s sense of humor. If she says it again, you could point out that the venom sac is likely poisonous, so they’re probably not wrong calling it a poisonous spider. . .

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    Andrew, please tell her she is already making the world better. I'm picky about using the right word , but pretty
    sure I have not been using those two words correctly. Gonna remember the difference.

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