Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12
Results 16 to 28 of 28

Thread: Do we ever say no?

  1. #16
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    Longview WA
    Posts
    20,946
    Blog Entries
    1
    if the OP asks a Chevy or a Ford we discuss the pros and cons we have learned from our experience.
    The Chevy/Ford discussion often tends to have deep seated loyalties influencing many responders to such a question. At times people seem to have stronger opinions about their preferred automobile brand than some of us get about diamond stones versus oilstones versus water stones versus _______ (insert your favorite sharpening system here).

    In my case my experience included a necessity to be frugal and purchase second hand tools. This not only gave me a better understanding of the tools while saving some money, it enabled me to rehab tools and sell them to make a little money. The money was usually spent to buy more tools.

    jtk
    "A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
    - Sir Winston Churchill (1874-1965)

  2. #17
    Join Date
    Jun 2017
    Location
    Northeast Ohio
    Posts
    44
    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Koepke View Post
    My beginning in woodworking had me in a situation a little stretched financially and having the spare time of any average man with 4 kids and a job.

    jtk
    4 kids?! My hatís off to you.
    I have 2, oldest is 2 and I can barely find enough time to remind myself to breathe. I just keep collecting tools telling myself one day down the road Iíll finally have some time to use all the tools Iíve collected.

  3. I bought a radial arm saw for $25.00 at a yard sale four years ago. I brought it home, plugged it in and sawed a 2x4 to make sure it worked. I have never used it since. It serves as a nice table to set things on. About all it gets used for. If I had not purchased it, I would have needed one every other week. Sort of like buying a snow shovel only to go through a spell without snow.

  4. #19
    Join Date
    Mar 2015
    Location
    Virginia
    Posts
    1,038
    I often say no on sharpening questions. Many people post that they are frustrated with perfectly serviceable stones. They do not need to spend $300 on the latest thing from Japan. They just need to learn how to sharpen.

  5. #20
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Cincinnati Ohio
    Posts
    4,498
    Years ago I was asked by a friend about a wood lathe he saw at the local Sears Hardware store. He was not a woodworker but was interested in wood turning. I talked him out of it. Think I recommended a JET Mini lathe. He has since passed away.
    Looking back I should have encouraged him with the Sears model. It was at a price point and brand he was comfortable with. At the end of the day im sure it would have worked fine. He never did get into wood turning.
    "Remember back in the day, when things were made by hand, and people took pride in their work?"
    - Rick Dale

  6. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by kent wardecke View Post
    Contemplation
    The more i think about it we,as a group, are pretty good. Something never offered is "you'd be better off putting that $1100 in an IRA" But if the OP asks a Chevy or a Ford we discuss the pros and cons we have learned from our experience. Of course someone will say buy a Cadillac but rarely will someone suggest a yugo because we know that's false economy
    You ARE actually better off putting that money into an IRA. But what are you going to do in the meantime? Speaking of economy, a better quality tool might save you from buying the tool twice or more, which is a long-term saving (the proceeds from which you should put into an IRA, if that's still an option for you.)

    Assuming somebody is committed to this (a)vocation, which most people in this forum are.

  7. #22
    Join Date
    Sep 2016
    Location
    Modesto, CA, USA
    Posts
    3,665
    The IRA yearly limit is now $6,000 per year, per person. So the IRS thinks $500 a month is the correct amount to put into your IRA. I just added $500 extra to my 2019 IRA because they retroactively increased the limits for 2019.
    Make it a ROTH IRA not the traditional kind.
    Bill D

  8. #23
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Location
    Upland CA
    Posts
    4,527
    You want rejection?

    Just post , asking if you should buy a Craftsman Radial Arm saw.
    Rick Potter

    DIY journeyman,
    FWW wannabe.
    AKA Village Idiot.

  9. #24
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    N.E. Ohio
    Posts
    5,693
    Say no? Of course not - we're all tool sluts...
    My granddad always said, :As one door closes, another opens".
    Wonderful man, terrible cabinet maker...

  10. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by Nicholas Lawrence View Post
    I often say no on sharpening questions. Many people post that they are frustrated with perfectly serviceable stones. They do not need to spend $300 on the latest thing from Japan. They just need to learn how to sharpen.

    Agreed! I have some money invested in sharpening stones and a jig, but not a crazy amount, and I have a system that get me the chisel and plane iron sharpness I need. When ever younger people ask me about sharpening I tell them go with the scary sharp method or another sandpaper based idea to start and maybe forever.

  11. #26
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    Longview WA
    Posts
    20,946
    Blog Entries
    1
    When ever younger people ask me about sharpening I tell them go with the scary sharp method or another sandpaper based idea to start and maybe forever.
    This was used in my beginning days and worked well at teaching me about sharpening.

    It also taught me purchasing sand paper all the time for sharpening can become more expensive than purchasing decent stones.

    Now days my sandpaper usage is mostly for on the lathe, putting a good point on a pencil or removing heavy rust from metal.

    jtk
    "A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
    - Sir Winston Churchill (1874-1965)

  12. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Koepke View Post
    It also taught me purchasing sand paper all the time for sharpening can become more expensive than purchasing decent stones.
    Yep, it can easily become false-economy.
    ~mike

    scope creep

  13. #28
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    Upstate NY
    Posts
    3,520
    When I moved I sold all my difficult to move tools and bought new ones. In most cases I upgraded, but I downgraded my bandsaw because I didn't think I used it enough to justify the price of a good one. That's saying "no", isn't it?

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •