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    Anyone in the Boston area that can show me how to use a shaper?

    Hello,
    I'm new to woodworking and I recently bought a used delta delta shaper 43-379. I was wondering if there is anyone in the Boston area that could show me how to use a shaper? I can help with your project in a return!
    Thank you
    -Sam

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Abd View Post
    Hello,
    I'm new to woodworking and I recently bought a used delta delta shaper 43-379. I was wondering if there is anyone in the Boston area that could show me how to use a shaper? I can help with your project in a return!
    Thank you
    -Sam
    Have you tried youtube? I am in the Boston area but I don't have a shaper

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    Not a lot of good shaper use advice available on YouTube unfortunately. I have a couple videos talking about a few tooling options only but not about techniques. Many of the "how to" videos out there don't demonstrate good, safe techniques.

    I'd get this book for starters, it's really the most up-to-date one available on tooling and techniques. https://amzn.to/2TZROn5

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    https://shorturl.at/mRTU3

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    Thank you Brent, I'm considering buying it. I'm not very good at reading and learning things. I learn more by watching and listening to someone or youtube but to your point, there isn't much on youtube about a shaper. People just show what they're making instead. I'm hoping someone nearby has a shaper!

    Quote Originally Posted by brent stanley View Post
    Not a lot of good shaper use advice available on YouTube unfortunately. I have a couple videos talking about a few tooling options only but not about techniques. Many of the "how to" videos out there don't demonstrate good, safe techniques.

    I'd get this book for starters, it's really the most up-to-date one available on tooling and techniques. https://amzn.to/2TZROn5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Abd View Post
    Thank you Brent, I'm considering buying it. I'm not very good at reading and learning things. I learn more by watching and listening to someone or youtube but to your point, there isn't much on youtube about a shaper. People just show what they're making instead. I'm hoping someone nearby has a shaper!
    I hear you! The problem is, it's really a good idea to go down the right path from the very start and there are a LOT of ways to get started on the wrong path on YouTube. This is starting to get quite dated and some of the tooling used is out of date, but it's not bad. https://youtu.be/4n6yTHMBX54

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    https://shorturl.at/mRTU3

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    I was just watching this video when you posted the link funny! I think the guy in the video is missing a finger or part of it lol.

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    Sometimes getting the best videos off YT is using different search phases.

    "safety techniques using a shaper"

    By using different phase and order of wording produces different video list.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kml_iye-Ens


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ifYuumL0k8E
    Last edited by Rob Damon; 01-27-2020 at 12:37 PM.

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    It's just like using a router in a table. Except it has a lot more power and possibly bigger diameter cutters. But with the max 3/4" spindle, you won't want to run really big cutters anyway.

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    [QUOTE=brent stanley;2986621]Not a lot of good shaper use advice available on YouTube unfortunately. I have a couple videos talking about a few tooling options only but not about techniques. Many of the "how to" videos out there don't demonstrate good, safe techniques.

    I'd get this book for starters, it's really the most up-to-date one available on tooling and techniques. https://amzn.to/2TZROn5

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    Have a look at Roy Sutton on utube and download it.
    That's probably a good start good luck

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    [QUOTE=Tom Trees;2986661]
    Quote Originally Posted by brent stanley View Post
    Not a lot of good shaper use advice available on YouTube unfortunately. I have a couple videos talking about a few tooling options only but not about techniques. Many of the "how to" videos out there don't demonstrate good, safe techniques.

    I'd get this book for starters, it's really the most up-to-date one available on tooling and techniques. https://amzn.to/2TZROn5

    B[/QUOT
    Have a look at Roy Sutton on utube and download it.
    That's probably a good start good luck
    Yup! Take a look at my next post.
    https://shorturl.at/mRTU3

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    I'm also in the Boston area, have a shaper, but could also use lessons in how to use it. At least one of the woodworking schools does a week long course, that would be the way to really get to know the machine. I use mine, but only for simple stuff where I can feed it with a power feeder. I'm still pretty much terrified of it and don't use it nearly as much as I probably should. I ran about 1000 feet of cherry mouldings for our house, and it was way better than trying to do it on a router table.

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    I still like the old Delta book , since all of it is relevant to basic use. One absolute rule should be "never walk away from
    an incomplete set-up ". Remove all from spindle if you must adjust your radio, probably the most dangerous thing in a shop!! Failure to follow should be call for dismissal in any commercial shop.

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    These are the cutters I got with the shaper. Freeborn are for making cabinets and doors I assume? Second set is for edges and beads? Those 2 long things are converting from different sizes?


    set2.jpgset3.jpgset.jpg

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    My neighbor who has a shop most would die for has his left pinky finger bent at about 90 degrees thanks to a shaper. Not sure why he didn't do more to have it look normal but he's kind of strange sometimes. He was making a curved handrail and something went wrong. Even seasoned experienced master craftsmen can make a mistake. Normally he would have been using a power feeder but because it was curved in multiple ways he tried by hand. If it was me I would be a little leery of just watching a video and reading a book.

    Maybe you can find a smaller commercial shop and go talk to them. That's how my neighbor learned. 30 years ago he walked into one and ask if they would take him on. Being young and still living at home he said he would even forgo a paycheck, just wanted to get some hands on experience. Maybe you have free time and can find someone willing to show you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roger wiegand View Post
    I'm also in the Boston area, have a shaper, but could also use lessons in how to use it. At least one of the woodworking schools does a week long course, that would be the way to really get to know the machine. I use mine, but only for simple stuff where I can feed it with a power feeder. I'm still pretty much terrified of it and don't use it nearly as much as I probably should. I ran about 1000 feet of cherry mouldings for our house, and it was way better than trying to do it on a router table.
    What cutters did you use for molding? I'm also looking to use this for making crown moulding for the house.

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