Tenon tooling for shaper...

[Mark Hennebury]

Joe,

The SET is a nice machine too. Wadkin were pretty innovative at the period.

The Jet takes standard stacks.
The three tables adjust vertically and horizontally.
I am quite excited to get working on a rebuild.

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Mark,
looks interesting, I saw your video on a SET tenoner. Looks like it has purpose made tooling? While the JET is a normal tenon stack? The different tool sets would have to be made to specific heights so as not to have to move the tables up and down with each change of tooling? This is easy to accomplish with tools on a sleeve.
Just supposing here..
Will be looking forward to your rebuild on these.

[brent stanley]

Those look like what I have been wanting to buy exactly, for the same reasons. I have a bunch of large diameter adjustables but they will not go close enough together because of the hubs. Have another job coming up that I could use them on. Is there a place stateside to buy Whitehall, or even in Canada?

Larry, here's some in action. Not crazy about the machine or settup, but the heads are there: https://youtu.be/ys1-rKFP-OY

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[ChrisA Edwards]

Thank you Brent for the video link, that was just what I was looking for.

[brent stanley]

Thank you Brent for the video link, that was just what I was looking for.

I'm not sure what that guy is up to because that tenon seems pretty small, and his machine doesn't have an excess of power, but the tooling does the trick!

[Jared Sankovich]

Larry, here's some in action. Not crazy about the machine or settup, but the heads are there: https://youtu.be/ys1-rKFP-OY

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To be clear those are the groovers, not the tenon heads

[brent stanley]

To be clear those are the groovers, not the tenon heads

Absolutely, these are fixed-width groovers Larry and I were talking about earlier in post #13. However Whitehill considers forming tenons with these an acceptable use of them. Square shoulders only of course.

[ChrisA Edwards]

I'm not sure what that guy is up to because that tenon seems pretty small, and his machine doesn't have an excess of power, but the tooling does the trick!

Yes I noticed that, but all you need is a thicker center spacer(s). That looks like the ticket for me as I make 1/2" tenons on my next round of Plantation Shutters.

[brent stanley]

Yes I noticed that, but all you need is a thicker center spacer(s). That looks like the ticket for me as I make 1/2" tenons on my next round of Plantation Shutters.

You could use your combi head for that, but I do think dual discs is better.

[Jared Sankovich]

Downside of the groovers is you cant cope with them.

[brent stanley]

Downside of the groovers is you cant cope with them.

Agree, the ones you linked to are the most versatile I think. If you do a lot of square shoulder work, you could get the straight knives tipped in carbide and they'd last forever.

[Joe Calhoon]

I have some true tenon heads I use for square edge work. These normally have shear and sometimes mounted on a sleeve. I’ve used this head for almost 20 years. In front is a groover that can be used between the heads to make double tenons.

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On the right is a 15 to 30 Adj groover that I use in my sliding saw and can also be used to make tenons on the shaper. They cut almost as good as the true tenon disks. A little limited on house door work because of the 15mm height.
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These are all 250mm diameter which allows using them within the fences on my shapers. Larger than that you have to take the fence of and use a tenon hood. 250 gives a acceptable tenon length for house doors. I have 320 disks for longer tenon work. Always a good idea to order Z 3 knives on disks 225mm and over.

These disks can also be used for square edge coping.

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[Larry Edgerton]

Thank you Brent for the video

[brent stanley]

Thank you Brent for the video

You're welcome Larry.