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    Editing classified posts REVISED

    Hey Mods...

    Do you suppose you might consider extending editing rights for posts in the classifieds? Editing the original post to show what's sold and what's not makes for the cleanest approach, but after a day the editing rights are gone. With many ads being posted a week or more that means an interested party needs to scroll though the whole thread to see what's left. We'd be able to close out our own ads then too. First world problem for sure, but it would smooth things out some.

    Thanks for your consideration.

    Admin Edit: You can now edit any post or thread you created in the classifieds forum at any time.
    This new rule only applies to the Classified Forum.
    Last edited by Bruce Page; 05-04-2019 at 11:46 AM.
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    Rob,

    I think everyone agrees that would be helpful. But I think when asked before this wasn't possible with the current forum software.

    What you can do is ask a moderator to edit it for you after the window to edit is expired. I've done that for several people. Also, you can click the little "Report Post" button at the bottom of a the message and ask that the entire thread be deleted. I don't see why it couldn't be used to ask for editing as well if you can't contact a moderator directly. However, the thread still gets messy unless all the intermediate messages that are purged - but that could be an effort for the moderator to make sure exactly the right messages were deleted - I'd hate to do that in a long thread.

    Another thing people do is add an updated post to the thread with just the items remaining, or copy the entire list with the word "Sold" in bold in front of each item that is gone.

    It seems to me a cleaner way might be to put each item in a separate thread. That way, the thread doesn't get long and an "item sold" message is pretty clear, especially if you have that message title simply say "Sold". Follow that with a "report post" request to delete that thread and you're done with that item.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Luter View Post
    Hey Mods...

    Do you suppose you might consider extending editing rights for posts in the classifieds? Editing the original post to show what's sold and what's not makes for the cleanest approach, but after a day the editing rights are gone. With many ads being posted a week or more that means an interested party needs to scroll though the whole thread to see what's left. We'd be able to close out our own ads then too. First world problem for sure, but it would smooth things out some.

    Thanks for your consideration.
    Last edited by John K Jordan; 05-04-2019 at 11:28 AM. Reason: typ0

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    It's been a while since I administered a vB site, but I remember it was fairly easy to set the permissions to allow or deny a usergroup to edit posts in a specific forum. This has to be done by an Administrator through the AdminCP, and changes made to one forum don't carry over to the rest of the site.

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    The question was asked and answered by Keith recently. Unfortunately, the edit window permissions cannot differ in one forum area over other forum areas. Just ask a moderator to help with a major change to a listing (or to remove it) by using the "report post" button so that the first moderator who actually sees it will take care of it for you.

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    Thanks for the replies. I guess I can’t understand why edit rights expire at all. Other forums I participate in have that feature available all the time with no apparent downside. No matter, I’m a team player. Thanks Mods.
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    For many years the ability to edit threads and posts here never expired. Then we had a small group that decided they wanted to try to destroy every thread they had participated by editing their posts and removing pictures. This kind of behavior is disrespectful towards other people who also had posts in all of the threads that were targeted. Threads lose continuity when portions are removed and often cease to make sense.

    Some public forums are not concerned about protecting the past. It has always been my opinion that our archives are important because they contain valuable information. People spend countless hours sharing their knowledge and pictures of projects here. We need to be responsible with the information we host and at least preserve it for all of the woodworkers to come, some of them may be your children and grandchildren.

    You would be surprised how much woodworking information is available here including project pictures, drawings, pdf files and personal sketches. Most jump in and simply ask questions every day, some find out what a great resource our archives are.
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    Sorry Keith, if this is an inappropriate place to ask this question but I couldn't figure out how to contact you directly otherwise. Is SC a forum where I might post pictures and get an ID on a thickness planer I have just acquired? It is going to need parts so I am looking for a way to get to a parts list instead of having to enlist a machinist. And by the way, totally agree about the preserve-for-posterity mindset.

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    And by the way, Keith, the planer is part of a lot I bought to part out and sell. I attempted to put some powermatic bandsaw parts up in the "classifieds" but although I have permission here, I don't there. How is that gained?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timothy Robinson View Post
    Sorry Keith, if this is an inappropriate place to ask this question but I couldn't figure out how to contact you directly otherwise. Is SC a forum where I might post pictures and get an ID on a thickness planer I have just acquired? It is going to need parts so I am looking for a way to get to a parts list instead of having to enlist a machinist. And by the way, totally agree about the preserve-for-posterity mindset.
    Yes you can post photos, look for the small picture frame at the top of each Quick Reply page.

    Quote Originally Posted by Timothy Robinson View Post
    And by the way, Keith, the planer is part of a lot I bought to part out and sell. I attempted to put some powermatic bandsaw parts up in the "classifieds" but although I have permission here, I don't there. How is that gained?
    Only contributors can post items for sale in the classifieds section. You can become a contributor for a mere $6.00 per year.
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    @Lee Schierer: Thanks Lee. Unfamiliar with the formatting. Which area in the forums would you suggest is the best for the tool identification?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Outten View Post
    For many years the ability to edit threads and posts here never expired. Then we had a small group that decided they wanted to try to destroy every thread they had participated by editing their posts and removing pictures. This kind of behavior is disrespectful towards other people who also had posts in all of the threads that were targeted. Threads lose continuity when portions are removed and often cease to make sense.

    Some public forums are not concerned about protecting the past. It has always been my opinion that our archives are important because they contain valuable information. People spend countless hours sharing their knowledge and pictures of projects here. We need to be responsible with the information we host and at least preserve it for all of the woodworkers to come, some of them may be your children and grandchildren.

    You would be surprised how much woodworking information is available here including project pictures, drawings, pdf files and personal sketches. Most jump in and simply ask questions every day, some find out what a great resource our archives are.
    Thanks for the detailed response Keith. I appreciate the historical perspective. I see where you're coming from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timothy Robinson View Post
    @Lee Schierer: Thanks Lee. Unfamiliar with the formatting. Which area in the forums would you suggest is the best for the tool identification?
    If they are power tools, then the General Woodworking and Power tools section would be best. Hand tools would go to the Neanderthal section..Lathes to turning. If it isn't right one of the moderators would likely move it to where it belongs.
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    Thanks again, Lee. If anyone is interested, I am now a contributor and put the bandsaw parts up in the classifieds section.

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    Keith, thanks for that policy and explaining it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Outten View Post
    For many years the ability to edit threads and posts here never expired. Then we had a small group that decided they wanted to try to destroy every thread they had participated by editing their posts and removing pictures. This kind of behavior is disrespectful towards other people who also had posts in all of the threads that were targeted. Threads lose continuity when portions are removed and often cease to make sense.
    I experienced this on one of my vBulletin sites, and it is disruptive to the flow of information. By the time I discovered this, over 1,000 threads had been affected, so I permanently banned the members, deleted the threads, rebuilt the caches and search history, and normalized the database tables. This was four or five hours of my weekend shot while the well-behaved members were denied access to the site during the repairs. There were also a couple of members who would post an acerbic comment and edit it an hour or so later, after the intended recipient would have had time to read it, and then deny making the comments when the recipient complained. They never realized Moderators and Administrators could see the complete edit history of every post.

    Despite this, it was still necessary to keep the unrestricted editing available for some areas, but the message about the consequences of slashing and burning was received and I never had another problem with it.

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