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    Fastest cutting resaw bandsaw blade

    Folks,

    Looking for some advice. I have a project that's going to require me to resaw a bunch of standard pine 2x6 dimensional lumber. I currently have a 3/4" timberwolf blade. The feed rate on a test 2x6 was way too slow, like 10 minutes or so for 1 pass, which required a fair amount of pushing to get it through the saw. Now I am running a Jet 14" with the 6" riser block. I know, not a great saw, but I'd think it should be good enough with the fastest / easiest cutting blade.

    I've been searching for other blades, and am wondering what your opinions are on which blade is the fastest cutting bandsaw blade available? I'm guessing it's going to be a "carbide" tipped blade like the resaw king or trimaster.

    Again, the main thing I'm looking for is speed. I don't care much about the quality of the cut because I'm going to run everything through the planer afterwards.

    Thanks!
    Bobby

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    I think you may be surprised about the carbide tipped blades. I haven't tried one of them but I speculate it will cut more slowly, due to the wide bite. These are created for quality cuts, an attribute that you don't care about. If it is taking you 10 minutes to resaw a pine 2 X 6, then there is something wrong. I used to use a 1 horsepower Carftsman/Rikon bandsaw with a thin Timberwolf resaw blade that would cut considerably faster than that.

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    Thanks Art. That's interesting you're thinking those blades would be slower. My test 2x6 was 8 feet long. How fast would you guess a properly setup saw with a standard blade like mine should be able to cut that piece?

    I guess I need to learn more about saw setup. I'm guessing my main issue would be blade tension.

    Hopefully someone who has used the carbide tipped blades can weigh in on the speed difference between those and a standard blade.

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    Even at one inch every two seconds you should be done in just over 3 minutes and that is pretty slow. I wonder what kind of horsepower you are applying; it may not be a blade issue at all. I don't find my Resaw King to cut any faster than a Timberwolf 2-3 VPC. The Woodslicer cuts pretty fast in properly prepared and dried lumber, much faster than the Resaw King. Of course, carbide blades last much longer so, if you just factor the cost of the Woodslicer into your project, any life left after you're done is a bonus.
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    HP is more important than blade style, assuming all the blades are sharp. I agree that given the same saw and HP a carbide blade will probably cut SLOWER than a steel blade. I use a 1" Woodmaster CT on a Minimax with a (more or less) 4 HP motor and it generally will cut as fast as I can comfortably feed the stock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Art Mann View Post
    I think you may be surprised about the carbide tipped blades. I haven't tried one of them but I speculate it will cut more slowly, due to the wide bite. These are created for quality cuts, an attribute that you don't care about. If it is taking you 10 minutes to resaw a pine 2 X 6, then there is something wrong. I used to use a 1 horsepower Carftsman/Rikon bandsaw with a thin Timberwolf resaw blade that would cut considerably faster than that.

    His saw likely won’t tension a carbide blade.
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    Thanks a lot guys. It sounds like my main issue is an underpowered saw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby Tsioles View Post
    Folks,

    Looking for some advice. I have a project that's going to require me to resaw a bunch of standard pine 2x6 dimensional lumber. I currently have a 3/4" timberwolf blade. The feed rate on a test 2x6 was way too slow, like 10 minutes or so for 1 pass, which required a fair amount of pushing to get it through the saw. Now I am running a Jet 14" with the 6" riser block. I know, not a great saw, but I'd think it should be good enough with the fastest / easiest cutting blade.

    I've been searching for other blades, and am wondering what your opinions are on which blade is the fastest cutting bandsaw blade available? I'm guessing it's going to be a "carbide" tipped blade like the resaw king or trimaster.

    Again, the main thing I'm looking for is speed. I don't care much about the quality of the cut because I'm going to run everything through the planer afterwards.

    Thanks!
    Bobby
    If you do think about a Resaw King on the Jet 14", I would suggest reading this recent thread.https://sawmillcreek.org/showthread....t-iron-bandsaw
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby Tsioles View Post
    Thanks a lot guys. It sounds like my main issue is an underpowered saw.
    Not so sure about that. Wouldn't cost much to try a 1/2" Woodslicer blade, might seem like a whole new saw.

    Doing what you describe on my 14" Rikon would probably take well under a minute.

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    You dont say what TPI your blade is? Are all the 3/4" timberwolf blades the same tooth count?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby Tsioles View Post
    Thanks a lot guys. It sounds like my main issue is an underpowered saw.
    Your saw may not be under powered but could be suffering from too little belt tension. When I first tried resawing taller cuts I had the same frustration with my 1_1/2 Hp 14" Delta. What I noticed when the blade would stall while resawing, was that the motor continued to run. Once I added tension to the belt the saw walked through resawing faster and with far less pushing. This was with a 1/2" Tmberwolf blade.

    Your saw may not be tensioning that 3/4" blade properly.

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    It's hard to remember because I use a better bandsaw now but I doubt if it would have taken more than a minute to resaw an 8 foot pine 2 X 6 on my old saw.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby Tsioles View Post
    Thanks Art. That's interesting you're thinking those blades would be slower. My test 2x6 was 8 feet long. How fast would you guess a properly setup saw with a standard blade like mine should be able to cut that piece?

    I guess I need to learn more about saw setup. I'm guessing my main issue would be blade tension.

    Hopefully someone who has used the carbide tipped blades can weigh in on the speed difference between those and a standard blade.

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    Woodslicer was the fastest cutting blade I have ever used (for a while) I think it dulled to fast. I have the 1/2'" Tri Master now, it is slower. I have had it well over a year, I dry and surface my own lumber, so I have resawed a few boards. It is still cutting as slow as it did new.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby Tsioles View Post
    Thanks a lot guys. It sounds like my main issue is an underpowered saw.
    I don't know about being underpowered. I only have a 1HP on my 14" Delta and it powers a Woodslicer (non carbide) as fast as it did with the Resaw King. I'm now running a 1/2" Kerfmaster (same as Woodslicer but less expensive) and it does a wonderful job. In my experience, the feed rate difference between it and the RK carbide blade is not significant with the Kerfmaster actually being a bit faster. The finish is very good although not quite as good as the RK, but since you will be planing afterwards it shouldn't matter. The variable pitch and gullet design make this blade feed very differently than the Timberwolves that I have used. It will dull sooner than a carbide however it is waaaay less expensive in the first place.
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    I could write multiple pages on this question but the key here is you are looking for the blade that will accomplish a specific task as quickly as possible. One key here in determining the blade is you are cutting construction grade SYP so that has to be accounted for. The Woodslicer/Kerfmaster/Bladerunner bands are not a good choice here. They have essentially zero set and won't be able to clear the waste from wet/pitchy pine 2X stock.

    The "best" blades for this job are too big for your saw but my choice for this saw would be a Lenox 3/4"x .032" Flexback 2tpi Hook with a Raker set. This is all the blade this saw can take and will require full tension. Keep in mind the saws blade speed and horsepower will limit you in speed and this blade is a wider kerf than you would normally like on a 14" Delta clone saw but you need it to clear the waste. The Woodslicer type blades will cut faster initially but especially in 2X SYP they are going to heat up and dull very quickly. You are simply going to have to accept this won't be a "fast" job and just dive in and get it done.
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