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Thread: Historical Treatises: No Mention of Clamps?

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    Look for 'cramps'. I think Moxon mentions them (it was somone in the weird long s era, 85% sure it was Moxon).

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    In "The Joiner and Cabinet Maker", originally printed in 1839, it mentions using a screw clamp during one of the glue ups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Lemon View Post
    Look for 'cramps'. I think Moxon mentions them (it was somone in the weird long s era, 85% sure it was Moxon).
    Moxon does not use the word cramp at all. He uses the word clamp to mean a board fixed cross grain to a wide board or panel to prevent warping, like what we would call a breadboard end.

    Cramp is a British term for clamp. Nicholson (1812) says that if the glue is quite stiff it may be necessary to us a cramp to pull a mortise and tenon joint together. I can't recall an earlier reference. I think the use of "cramp" is waning today.

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    What an elegant cabinet makers triangle!

    Quote Originally Posted by Warren Mickley View Post
    Here is Roubo's pair of etreignoirs. The spelling changed more in a century than did the clamps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warren Mickley View Post
    Moxon does not use the word cramp at all. He uses the word clamp to mean a board fixed cross grain to a wide board or panel to prevent warping, like what we would call a breadboard end.

    Cramp is a British term for clamp. Nicholson (1812) says that if the glue is quite stiff it may be necessary to us a cramp to pull a mortise and tenon joint together. I can't recall an earlier reference. I think the use of "cramp" is waning today.
    The complete Woodworker (Jones) uses both cramp and clamp according to the index. I will have to read it again one day and see if he uses the terms interchangeably, or if there is some distinction I have not noticed before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warren Mickley View Post
    Moxon does not use the word cramp at all...
    Thanks for the correction. I didn't have my Kindle and was going from memory. Apparently I was mixing up my old guys.

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    Hi All,

    In the Workbench book, by Landis, the first section or two has drawings and paintings of vintage work shops, to show the workbenches, but some of them show walls with clamps on them. Those that do include: turn of the century Swedish shop, the 18th century Roubo drawing shows 6 or 7 clamps on the wall, the shaker shop shows handscrew clamps, and a 16th century guild chest drawing shows a C clamp.

    Regards,

    Stew
    Last edited by Stew Denton; 08-29-2018 at 10:34 PM.

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    One additional nugget to think about. Edge gluing was done less often because wide boards were more readily available. Even a 36" wide table top might have one or no joints and carcass sides were almost always a single piece.
    Dave Anderson

    Chester, NH

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