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    Rockler Dust RightŪ Wall Mount Dust Collector with Canister Filter

    I have a air filtration unit and am happy with it.
    I want to supplement it with a dust collector that will be totally dedicated to collecting sanding dust off my lathe. I like Powermatic's PMDCV-C 20" 2 micron canister kit. I don't like the price!

    In my research I find a Rockler Dust RightŪ Wall Mount Dust Collector with Canister Filter that collects down to 1 micron. It's price is about half that of the Powermatic. The other obvious big difference is horsepower and a flow rate of 650 cfm. The Rockler, if purchased, would be mounted within 5 feet of where it would be positioned to collect dust off my lathe.

    Does anyone have this unit connected to your lathe and what has been your experience?

    Thanks in advance.

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    I don't have that unit, however, I do have a 1200 CFM Delta, and I don't use it. Even a foot away, it's barely adequate to collect sanding dust. A 650 CFM unit 5 feet away, I would think you not even going to notice it. Except for it making noise. Just my $0.02. I do use a $20 box fan to suck (not blow) dust away. It's cheap and better than the DC.

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    I’ve got the small HF Dust collector (similar to the DR) with the dust right canister filter and it does everything i want it to do. It’s fine dust and I found it to be perfectly adequate for the job

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle Iwamoto View Post
    I don't have that unit, however, I do have a 1200 CFM Delta, and I don't use it. Even a foot away, it's barely adequate to collect sanding dust. A 650 CFM unit 5 feet away, I would think you not even going to notice it. Except for it making noise. Just my $0.02. I do use a $20 box fan to suck (not blow) dust away. It's cheap and better than the DC.
    I have a Delta 1200 cfm dust collector with a pleated filter cannister on it, and a 31 gallon vortex separator on it, and I can collect sanding dust off my lathe with a flexible hose on one port, and from the other port, I have pvc ducting all the way to the far end of my shop where I have a router table with connectors to collect dust there. My 1200 cfm collector will pull all that way across the shop even with most of that 4" run overhead of the truss collar ties.

    Your system should do way better than you describe, Kyle! I wonder if you are losing suction somewhere along your system?
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    i just upgraded my delta 50-760 with a canister filter and dust deputy separator and the improvement was significant! It’s probably a 15’ run to the lathe and it works great for dust. My next step will be to convert to 6” main trunks but this is working for now.

    As as I was researching the canisters it does seem like they can get clogged up quickly with sanding dust so I added the separator to help cut down on filter cleaning and to maintain air flow for longer.

    To to answer the OP I think a dedicated DC close to the machine would work just fine.

    When I’m sanding off the lathe I do setup a box fan with a 20” pleated filter on it pulling dust away from me. Works pretty well. My lathe is up against a wall, no where to put a box fan but they do move some air. It can be very effective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Chandler View Post

    Your system should do way better than you describe, Kyle! I wonder if you are losing suction somewhere along your system?
    Not losing suction. It does an adequate job of collecting dust, but it has to be a foot away to get all of it. My point was if his vac is half the CFM and 5 times the distance, it probably won't be any use. My DC was very close to me and noisy. It is a good system. The box fans are quiet, do just as good a job, blows the dust out the window. Just an option, and a cheap one.

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    I have the Grizzly dust collector blower that is the same as on the Grizzly G0785 which looks very close to the Rockler unit. (Notice the price difference.) It is right behind the lathe, a PM 3520, and pulls through a Super Dust Deputy and 5' of hose to the lathe. I wear a Trend Air Shield Pro and frequently find dust on top of the Trend unit when power sanding using a drill motor. I find that the inlet must be positioned less that 8" from the sanding source to be effective with this size blower when power sanding. When sanding w/o a drill motor, it is a lot easier to aim the dust stream to the inlet. I feel that noise could be a issue and keep the garage door closed when it is operating. Neighbors have not complained. I have a Delta 3/4 HP and Pen State 1 1/2 HP unit, mounted differently, that I perceive as quieter in operation.

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    I have a 2 HP Harbor Fright DC. I put a smaller "gulp" hood on it and it works good at pulling in 90 -95 plus percent of the fine sanding dust. But I need to put the hood close to the work. It is not that hard to position the hood to be close to the work piece. It has only a fraction of the CFM as the Delta units mentioned above (drool) and doesn't work as well, but then again, I paid under $200 for it.

    BTW, I bought my first DC for $10. It was a Harbor Fright 1 HP. The reason why I got it so cheaply is the hose and screen on the unit was totally plugged. Input and output was close to zero. I suspect that the previous owner wasn't aware that the curly shavings really clog the input screen quickly. I would recommend putting some sort of separator (cyclone, Thien baffle, etc.) in front.

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    Just wanted to clear up some self-inflicted confusion. The unit that I am interested in would be mounted to a wall 5 feet or less from my lathe. The dust collection point would be as close as possible to the piece I am sanding. My question was if people thought that a unit with 650 CFM would adequately "catch" all (most) of the dust. The length of my hose would be 5 feet or less. Thanks.

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    Yes it will

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    If your dust collection desire has anything to do with potential health concerns, i suggest you spend some time with billpentz.com and his dust collection research and form your own opinion. There is good general information there. This is not a simple subject, both in expressing desires and evaluating products quantitively. Most of the CFM performance data quoted on small blowers is about as valid as shop vacuum HP ratings. Also, CFM ratings w/o corresponding static pressure values are merely talking points.

    As I expressed above, that blower in a different color and from a different US supplier with a cyclone separator does not collect most - my definition - of the dust in my application.

    From Bill Pentz: If there are dust particles that are visible from sanding, there are many more times the quantity of dust particles that are not visible and these are harmful to the lungs.
    Last edited by Joe Kaufman; 07-04-2018 at 2:29 PM.

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