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    Unlike a chisel, the back of the plane iron doesn’t act as a registration face.
    If it isn't flat enough to 'resister' against the chip breaker, you will know it.

    If it has flatness issues at the edge it will have trouble with taking a light shaving.

    Many of my old blades were not flat at the edges and had to be flattened in order to take a full width shaving. This led me to post on using a light back bevel at the sides of the blade to camber a plane iron.

    Here is a shaving from the blade after a fresh sharpening:

    Full Width Shaving.jpg

    Here is a shaving from the same blade after a few rubs of the back corners of the blade on a hard Arkansas stone:

    %22Cambered%22 Blade Shaving.jpg

    It only takes three or fours strokes to get change the edge profile enough to change the nature of a thin shaving.

    jtk
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    I have vintage bedrock planes. I am happy with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Newman View Post
    Colleagues: does anyone have any input on the Wood River V3 bench planes? Made in China or Mexico?

    I am starting to think that I need a #4.
    If you're looking for a #4 and you want decent quality and new with a modest price, consider the Stanley Sweethearts. You can get it online through Home Depot for about a hundred bucks.
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    Get an old Stanley or get a LN, not LV or WR......USA vs China/Mexico......no-brainer. Extra weight is good for momentum....rather put $$ in the USA Than oversees....LN has over the top customer service....My 2c

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Koepke View Post
    If it isn't flat enough to 'resister' against the chip breaker, you will know it.

    If it has flatness issues at the edge it will have trouble with taking a light shaving.

    Many of my old blades were not flat at the edges and had to be flattened in order to take a full width shaving. This led me to post on using a light back bevel at the sides of the blade to camber a plane iron.

    Here is a shaving from the blade after a fresh sharpening:

    Full Width Shaving.jpg

    Here is a shaving from the same blade after a few rubs of the back corners of the blade on a hard Arkansas stone:

    %22Cambered%22 Blade Shaving.jpg

    It only takes three or fours strokes to get change the edge profile enough to change the nature of a thin shaving.

    jtk
    I agree Jim. I guess my comment was geared more toward flattering the entire back of the plane iron as you would a chisel. Maybe I’ve been lucky, but with all the V3 planes I own, it has taken little effort to “flatten” the back.

    That said, I don’t have any premium bench planes except with the possibility of my skew block by veritas. I will say that it was “ready to go, out of the box” in that it only required a few seconds on my 16000 to take nice, thin shavings...

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    Lee Valley is Canadian. And old Stanley could be Canadian or U.K., my Stanley #4 was made in a Canadian plant.

    Also, it must be said that "Made in America" is not always synonymous with quality.


    Quote Originally Posted by joe maday View Post
    Get an old Stanley or get a LN, not LV or WR......USA vs China/Mexico......no-brainer. Extra weight is good for momentum....rather put $$ in the USA Than oversees....LN has over the top customer service....My 2c

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    Yes I know that the LV planes are stated to be made in Canada....My mistake for including them in the post...I had many conversations with Rob's father and hold the Lee's and their company in the highest regards Their customer service is a model for others...............But.......to address the OP's question....I say the same....MY advise/choice would be an old Stanley #4, esp. pre WW2. Time spent adjusting and setting up will be far better than a WR plane...Stanley states right on the plane body where it is made.....and early USA is still preferred.
    If one is spending $150 on a WR plane that has a possibility of needing time spent adjusting, setting up where's the benefit?...The Veritas plane is a far better buy and a far better plane. But for my choice it would be better to save a bit more and get a LN plane, with no set-up. Just hone and go. if there is ever an issue, you deal directly with the manufacturer. Also Top notch customer service. You get what you pay for either in time or money and cheap Asian knockoffs at a premium price is not the way to go......
    I do not intend to start a war of words on this, I just hope to clarify my first post.
    Last edited by joe maday; 06-14-2018 at 8:31 PM.

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    "Time spent adjusting and setting up will be far better than a WR plane."

    Hi Joe,
    FWIW, my old Stanleys were more work than my WR #3.
    I agree with you on the Veritas - love the planes AND the company.
    Fred
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    Joe,
    Not sure if you're aware, but WoodRivers are knock-offs of Stanley Bedrocks but so are the Lie-Nielsen bevel ups.

    From my own experience, I have needed as much time to fettle the WoodRiver planes that I've purchased in the past as the Veritas planes. And that's to say that I've spent perhaps 5 minutes checking their flatness, and then lightly hone the irons. That's the thing with buying new, if something's wrong then just return/exchange them. I'm not sure I understand why you'd think that you would need to fettle a new WR like you would with an old Stanley. So the benefit of the higher price is still there.

    I have old Stanley Baileys and Bedrocks, and new WoodRivers and Veritas and Lie-Nielsens. Veritas are my "go-to" planes because their price point are right for me. But I'm just as happy and can make lumber just as smooth with my WoodRivers as I can with my Bedrocks and the more expense LVs and even more expensive bronze LN's.

    But to each his own Have a great weekend.

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    Colleagues: thanks for and appreciate all the comments. The other day, I handled a Wood River #4. It felt too heavy and just did not seem to fit my hands. "Gonna" ask around about who has a LN or VERITAS and see if it can do a hands-on. Again, thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Newman View Post
    Colleagues: thanks for and appreciate all the comments. The other day, I handled a Wood River #4. It felt too heavy and just did not seem to fit my hands. "Gonna" ask around about who has a LN or VERITAS and see if it can do a hands-on. Again, thanks.
    LN usually has a 'Tool Event' in Seattle in August or September. If you aren't too far from the border, there is a Lee Valley store in Vancouver, BC. Either might be a nice day trip. Other wise maybe there is a member with one or the other closer to you. Alas, all my #4 planes are Stanley/Bailey models.

    jtk
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