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    Radioactive Camera Lenses?

    This would be on cameras made between the 1940s and 1970s.

    It comes from using thorium dioxide in lenses to improve performance.

    https://petapixel.com/2018/06/07/a-radioactive-lens/

    Low level exposure but likely not enough to get rich on a law suit.

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    Wow- I had a Leica 50mm Summicron. I wonder if the Summilux also had this glass. I never knew about this- I’ve owned many Leica cameras and lenses, early and late vintage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Koepke View Post
    This would be on cameras made between the 1940s and 1970s.

    It comes from using thorium dioxide in lenses to improve performance.

    https://petapixel.com/2018/06/07/a-radioactive-lens/

    Low level exposure but likely not enough to get rich on a law suit.
    Alpha emitter, not really harmful unless you eat it. Doesn't penetrate the skin, but perhaps useful as a teachable moment to instruct your teenagers Plutonium cores for nuclear weapons are analogous emitters, which is why they're nickel-plated and you can hold them in your hand (slightly warm to the touch though.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug Dawson View Post
    Alpha emitter, not really harmful unless you eat it. Doesn't penetrate the skin, but perhaps useful as a teachable moment to instruct your teenagers Plutonium cores for nuclear weapons are analogous emitters, which is why they're nickel-plated and you can hold them in your hand (slightly warm to the touch though.)
    Whaaaaat??? Seriously?
    NOW you tell me...

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    How about radium dial wrist watches? They are radioactive too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug Dawson View Post
    \ Plutonium cores for nuclear weapons are analogous emitters, which is why they're nickel-plated and you can hold them in your hand (slightly warm to the touch though.)
    Spent a few years playing with nuclear weapons. The actual physics package was in fact not very large, but large enough that you'd need at least both hands.
    You'd still get dose from holding them. I got enough dose from just handling them as REB's, completely intact.

    More than a few products made in the 40's-60's would be classified as nuclear materials/nuclear waste these days. I see them in antique stores and flea markets. As long as you don't hold a frisker up to them, you won't know. The glass in the lenses would have been a very good shield material.
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    There is a story of gals getting radiation poisoning painting the radium on watch dials and hands when they would point the tiny brush bristles with their lips. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radium_Girls
    https://www.npr.org/2014/12/28/37351...ls-dies-at-107
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    Fiesta dinnerware is also radioactive if it was made between 1936 and 1972.
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    Anyone else remember the shoe store appliances where you inserted you feet and looked through a viewer to see the bones in your feet and how the fit of the shoes was? I was told later that occasional exposure to customers wasn't particularly harmful but it affected shoe store employees because of long term exposure. They didn't stay around very long thankfully.
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    Red tip Tig tungstens are also radioactive for the same reason Th232, same Mike, it always amazed me how something so physically small could do so much damage.

    How about radium dial wrist watches? They are radioactive too.
    So are bananas :0 decay of Potassium 40
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Weber View Post
    Anyone else remember the shoe store appliances where you inserted you feet and looked through a viewer to see the bones in your feet and how the fit of the shoes was? I was told later that occasional exposure to customers wasn't particularly harmful but it affected shoe store employees because of long term exposure. They didn't stay around very long thankfully.
    I had my shoes fit that way when I was younger

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Schierer View Post
    Fiesta dinnerware is also radioactive if it was made between 1936 and 1972.
    I love this, from the article:

    There is no evidence that the people who made these dishes suffered any ill effects from exposure to the glazes, so you probably don't have a lot to worry about by just being around the dishes.

    Now, keep in mind, these are the folks who were exposed to the glazes daily, sometimes for years, while the glazes are NOT cured/fired, i.e. they are not bound mechanically, so there would be lots of free floating dust from the glazes, glazes on fingers, etc.

    Reading the rest of the article, it sounds like you should simply display the Fiesta Ware behind leaded glass, if you even dare to keep it in the house. The reality is, "so what?" A collector of such is more likely to die from a stress/startle induced heart attack due to dropping a piece than they are from any increased cancer risk.
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    Wow!! U238 ore. Unbelievable!
    I have worked in the nuclear field since I was 19. First in the nuclear weapons area, and then commercial nuclear power.
    If those cups are as radioactive as they state, they're not something I would want in and around my house. We go nuts at work keeping people below the background levels of those cups.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Cutler View Post
    Spent a few years playing with nuclear weapons. The actual physics package was in fact not very large, but large enough that you'd need at least both hands.
    You'd still get dose from holding them. I got enough dose from just handling them as REB's, completely intact.
    As I recall, most of the (pre-splodey) radiation from a (typical) thermonuclear weapon originates from the uranium thermonuclear fuel, from which it's impossible to _completely_ eliminate short-half-life contaminants. (Not the plutonium cores, which are delightful little hollow grapefruits.)

    On the subject of handling radioactive material which does relate to woodworking, it's been reported that it is _not_unusual_ for the mainland Chinese to have used contaminated metal in their castings, resulting in hot machine tools. It's worth checking them with your Geiger counter, if you're interested in such things.
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    I have a set of green Pyrex glass mixing bowls that came from parents. When exposed to a "black light", they glow indicating that they are radioactive. This is the most common test used by collectors to make sure they are "genuine," and not fakes. Go in an antique store and if you someone shining a flash light (black light) on green glass items, this is what they are doing

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