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    Building a bed frame....

    Existing frame is a metal, angle iron thing.....plan is to use that, but add a 2 x frame around it. Have the 4 boards sitting IN the van....Thunderstorms in the area means they will stay there.

    Corner joints? Needs to be where the bed can be disassemble, IF need be ( like during a move...), but, right now there is no plans for a corner post. Rails will get attached to the metal frame, maybe lag screwed in place. This won't be some fancy-schmancy project. Pine for the 2 x 12 lumber...went through 1/2 a rack, searching for 4 decent planks.

    May try a sliding dovetail joint, to connect all the sides. No glue, as they can be slid apart when needed. The Boss is still debating on what headboard she wants made....

    May "soften" the top edges, may add a bead or two.

    IF this rain ever stops long enough, I can haul a few boards to the shop....we'll see.

    I have a box of self-drilling screws handy...used them a lot, before. Adding angle iron items to concrete form work...Some even threaded the hole as they drilled.

    Soooo, that be the next build thread....stay tuned.

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    Working through the design, as I go....planks even have a stamp, on them..
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    Four planks 2 x 10 x 8'...need to go back and by lumber for the corner posts. Then I can start making some sawdust.
    Stay tuned...

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    Went to the Blue Box this morning....they want too much for the 2 posts..( $13??) so, will go over to the big Green Box this afternoon. Boss has decided on a head board style....involves padding, staples, 1/2" plywood, and some fabric....Thinking a 2x above and below the head board panel......panel is to sit in a groove in the two corner posts. May make a M&T joint to connect the posts to the 2x s top and bottom.

    About all I bought at the Big Blue Box was a new 1/2" bandsaw blade....

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    Trip to the Big Green Box...$50, and I get a few coins back....

    2 non-treated 4 x 4 x 8' white pine for the corner posts...
    Two 2 x 4 x 6' for the top and bottom edges of the head board panel..

    1/2" x 24" x 8' plywood, to be cut down for the head board panel.

    2 x 2 x 8' for legs for an end table build
    1 x 4 x 6' for aprons for the end table build
    1 x 10 x4' to be cut to 24" long, and glued up for an end table's top

    Would unload it all from the van..but it is a little too wet outside...

    Still have to have her pick out what she wants to cover the panel for the head board with....posts and top and bottom rails with get a groove to house the panel..when she gets it done...

    This may turn out to be "FUN"
    stay tuned....might be two projects for the price of one "Admission"

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    Lumber has been unloaded from the van...whew. Need to find my notepad, so tomorrow I can get some measurements, and sketch out some sort of "plan".....as soon as I remembere what a plan is....

    As Boris Badanov was wont to say...." I always have plan, they don't always work out, but I always have plan.."

    Sliding dovetails? Lap joints? M&T Joints? And that is just for the bed frame.....will see how that short finger holds up....stay tuned.

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    Notepad has been found, and a few markings have been made..
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    That is usually all I need as far as a "Plan" is concerned. Then a few other tools...
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    I had the sizes for the rails that showed where I need to cut those at. Posts were another lay out problem..
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    I need to get a foot board post, AND a head board post out of this beam. (later I will cut the other 4 x 4 down, once this one is done..)
    Had some bad spots to work around...
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    Yeah. FirePit. Got VETOED about cutting the beam in place, had to haul it down to the shop...and dig out the cutting tools..
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    Saw was sold by Worth. 26" long, 8 ppi. Took a few more than 7 strokes to cut through the posts....Cardio Workout?
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    Two posts, ready for the joinery stuff. May keep going with these two, or, layout out beam #2 and cut it to size....
    Rails sit in a lap joint, with the posts to the outside of the frame.
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    Which means I have to clear away wood to make the housings. This way, the inside of the frame will be clear at the corners. Head board panel will sit in grooves both in the posts, and a pair of rails...
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    Laid out for the top rail.

    Now, since I do not have a 3/4" deep dovetail bit for the router, I guess the sliding dovetails to connect the rails will be hand cut.
    Intent is to be able to tear the bed down, in order to move it....like when moving from house to house. Queen-sized frame might be a bit too big to leave together...

    Project has been started....when this one is done, there are the parts for a Pine Bedside table project waiting, to be used with the bed. replaces a folding TV Tray.

    Stay tuned...

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    A bit more was done today....ever wonder WHY they are called beater chisels?
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    Because you beat on it to make it work. Drive it down, then hit the side of the handle until the wafers pop..
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    Then a "real" chisel can go to work..
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    A large slick works nicely...then another did the corners and a bit of end grain..
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    Had to set up a mitresaw, to make the square cuts on each end..
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    Post was too long to fit on the Langdon 75....not enough room for a long board. Rest of the cuts were done with a Vintage saw..
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    Had errands to run...might get some more done later tonight...or wait until tomorrow. Need to get the other post to the shop, and cut it to size....
    Stay tuned...

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    Decided to at least TRY to cut the second 4 x 4 x 8" done to close to the sizes I needed.....worn out from making the first cut-off with that Stanley #2246....was ticked off, anyway.....grabbed the vintage circular saw, and made a second cut-off.....then marked things to fine tune the cuts...once I finally cool off. Unless some Guru comes along and tells me what age he thinks these two saws are....

    Once the posts are done, then I can cut the rails to size, and start on the headboard. May give the wider Aldi's chisels a decent workout.....along with the slick.

    Chilling with a Cheeseburger from the grill, and a Guinness Blonde Lager.....might do the trick.

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    Awaiting the charger for the camera's battery to finish it's job. Picked a new (to me) tripod today, in the rain, at a yard sale....old one is to be tossed out...

    Will see what the Boss says, but I MIGHT try to get the posts done today.....then attempt some sliding dovetails on the rails...without using the corded router...should be "entertaining"

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    Ok, camera is back, new tripod works great. Got these notches all done
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    To house the bed rails.
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    Short ones are the foot board posts, tall still need a head board panel made.
    Lots of toys were out and about, today..
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    Mitre box was also put to use. Had to keep checking the posts...to make sure I had all the notches where they were supposed to be....been known to foul that up....

    Need to haul a few 2 x 10 x 8' planks to the shop....and start on the rails....or.....maybe just the 2 x 4 x 6' for the top and bottom rails for the headboard panel to sit in. Simpler M&T joints....need to get the Stanley #45 set up..to plough a 5/8" wide by 1/2 deep groove to house the plywood panel. The Boss will do the "covering"...for a padded effect. Still has to chose the material...yet.

    Road Trip...maybe when I get back, I can get a little more done? Stay tuned...
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    Guess I missed the Road trip...for now.

    Single Brain Cell Sketch Up is trying to get the grooves and joints lined up for the head board build....joining a 2 x 4 into a 4 x 4....with a stopped groove in the 4 x 4. Groove must also align with the through groove in the 2 x 4....
    Thinking I can make two tenons on the end of the 2 x 4, one on each side of the groove. May also "house" the end of the 2 x 4 into the 4 x 4. Bed inside width is 60".....I am working with 2 of the 2 x 4 x 6' boards...Also have to allow for the width of the plywood panel....23-7/8" wide. Panel right now is 8' long....I can cut that to the length..as soon as I know WHAT it will be...

    May have to do this in a few steps....rails may get done first, then the joints in the tall posts. Head board will be a glue-up....so it can be moved as a unit. May take two people to get it up and out of the shop...

    Maybe after Supper, I can meander down to the shop...with the 2 x 4s in hand?

    Stay tuned...

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    Instead of making shavings, and saw dust...made metal shavings....and sharpened the new rip saw...getting a bit too tired to work in the shop....too much can go wrong, when you get too tired.



    fancy joints can wait until the morning. Once the brain gets some rest....

    Picked a couple DVDs up at a yard sale....might just sit and watch those on the computer...

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    Ok...Yard sales in the morning....the shop time after lunch...for 4 hours....
    The head board posts needed some work done, today...I kept the two clamped together for a while, as I wanted some things to line up between the two..
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    First task was to cut a dado..
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    Only needed it to be 1/2" deep, but about 1-1/2" or so wide....for a 2 x 4 to fit into..Backsaw to cut the walls..
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    Chisel out most of the waste..
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    The cleaned up with a plane. had one for the top, and this one down by the rails. Then laid out a few mortises..
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    With the usual suspects to dig a few holes...
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    Got the mortises done for the bottom rail...then decided to separate the posts..lot easier to move just one at a time. Got both tops done, despite a couple knots..
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    Yeah.....All 8 mortises had to be at the same depth, too..
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    Set up the Stanley 45 with a #16 straight cutter, to plough a slightly wider than 1/2" groove, right done the center of the posts. Will house the plywood panel.
    Wasn't too easy, as it was a "stopped groove", Could not let it run on through.

    Time for Part 2 of today's misadventures..stay tuned...

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    OK, Stopped Groove....
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    Once the 45 had cut as much as it could...backsaw to cut the walls to the depth needed. Hammer and chisel to "pop" the waste out. until the groove was done...Set aside, and repeat for the other post..
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    Basically done...clamped back together for now. 2 x 4 was next on the bench..
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    Once I figured out how long to make the 72" long boards. Then cut them the length ~ 63" long..laid out the tenons..
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    One of the few times a powertool was used...bandsaw to make some of the cuts, backsaw for some of the others, chisel to chop the waste from the middle area...
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    May come back and "pin" the tenons during the glue up. Dryfit..
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    One end done, three to go, plus run the 45 down the center. About this time..back started to stiffen up...had been running the shop fan all day..onto me. Hot and stuffy down there.

    Swept the floor for the fourth or fifth time..
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    Time for supper, and rest the back. Will see IF I can get back to the shop today....may wait til tomorrow.

    Anyone "bored" yet? Wasn't too bad, for about four hours of work, today?
    Stay tuned...

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