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    Trimming Rails on Cabinet Doors

    I'm working on a set of 6 cabinet doors. I left the rails intentionally long but will need to cut them after gluing it up. I was just curious if there are any tips on doing this? I had thought that a flush cut saw would be a great tool for the job, but the guys at Woodcraft said that this wasn't the best approach.

    My plan had been to use the flush cut saw and then use a low angle block plane if necessary. But the end grain is tricky, and I'm new to this, and I really don't want to blow out the bottom after all that effort.

    Thanks! I've attached pictures so you can see what I'm talking about.
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    I usually trim them on my table saw, but if I were going to use just hand tools, I would mark the cut line and use a flush cut saw. You could use a hand plane, but would need to plane toward the center of the door or clamp a sacrificial strip to prevent tear out.
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    Why not trim them before glue up?
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    FWIW -I typically run the rails a little long

    Hand tools - 12 pt crosscut saw leaving the line, block plane from each end.

    Power - Track Saw excels at this and is faster

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    Mine are usually left a little proud and then trimmed with a block plane:

    Block Plane on Rail.jpg

    Take care when close to the stile as the grain might be going the other way.

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    One...I seem to recall those are known as Stiles....and the part left long is known as a horn. Use a back saw, like a tenon saw, to trim the horns flush to the rails. Use a knife wall to guide the saw. Knife all the way around. Saw and then clean up with a block plane IF need be. BTDT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steven c newman View Post
    One...I seem to recall those are known as Stiles....and the part left long is known as a horn. Use a back saw, line a tenon saw, to trim the horns flush to the rails. Use a knife wall to guide the saw. Knife all the way around. Saw and then clean up with a block plane IF need be. BTDT.
    The vertical elements are "Stiles", the horizontal elements are "Rails", I wasn't paying attention and just continued with the OP's nomenclature.

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    Oh, sorry about the rails/stiles mixup. And thanks for the tips. That should help

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brad Keen View Post
    Oh, sorry about the rails/stiles mixup. And thanks for the tips. That should help
    Do the names change if the structure is rotated 90º on the bench?

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    If not confident about sawing, clamp a block to guide the start of the cut so you can't damage the main frame. This should help to keep you square as well.

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    I think I'll do that, because I am definitely NOT confident about my sawing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Koepke View Post
    Do the names change if the structure is rotated 90º on the bench?

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    Yes, but then the door would be built incorrectly. Of course, you already know that.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Heath View Post
    Yes, but then the door would be built incorrectly. Of course, you already know that.......
    Also my question was partly a joke since my piece being planed was rotated 90º on the bench to trim the excess rail.

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    But. . . ...isn't it a pleasure to take a very sharp block plane and shave end grain off of stiles?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lowell holmes View Post
    But. . . ...isn't it a pleasure to take a very sharp block plane and shave end grain off of stiles?
    It's not my style...

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