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  1. #31
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    One item I forgot to mention is that I have 2 lengths of table extensions for my machine, 16 and 32 inch.

    The 16 inch tables use a quick connection system, the 32 inch use a quick connection plus a leg.

    I mostly leave a 16 inch extension on the planer outfeed so the work doesn't fall on the floor before I get to it.

    The Hammer also has an optional digital readout for height, it works great, no more measuring........Rod.

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    Jim is not exaggerating about how fast the A3-31 is to change over. Turn two latches, flip up the top, flip over the vacuum port and crank the handle about 30 times. Done. There is probably a real time video showing it from start to finish out there somewhere.

    It would take me longer to get the Dewalt off the shelf, hook up the dust collector and adjust the bed height. But, if the Dewalt were permanently set up with dedicated dust collection, or if you have to switch between functions a lot during a project, it would be different.

    The A3-31 is compact, mobile and quiet, and the extra jointer width is nice. You can also get extensions for the beds.

  3. #33
    I spoke with a sales specialist for Felder, and it does seem they are pushed a month or two back on having stock. I just wish they were open on the weekends to swing by and give the machines a whirl. It's tough to run around during the week. Sam over at MM said new stock is now coming in waves, with the first wave hitting this month. Should be back to full stock by end of May. Really wish I would have caught that 30% off sale in December. I totally would have bit the bullet and snagged the FS41. Oh well. I think its all going to work out, though. I'll have something by next weekend.

  4. #34
    Personally I would NEVER buy another G0490. I purchased one and a Byrd Shelix cutter head for it. Wow so many quality issues with that jointer, manufacturing flaws, design flaws, retarded assembly instructions it had it all. WARPED FENCE, side extension table not flat, depth of cut indicator stupidity, useless depth of cut stop bolt, no flats on the handles to tighten them, RAZOR SHARP shards of metal sticking out where the 220v power cord goes, blade guard not tensioned and no flat to grab hold of it e.g. channel lock pliers. I'm a Grizzly fan but this is not their best machine. Also there were several small dents in the outfeed table like it was gouged with a punch, this pushed metal up above the surface that had to be filed down level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Becker View Post
    I can honestly say with a straight face, that the changeover is neither a pain nor time consuming. It take me about a minute and a half....and that's if I'm loafing.
    I don't have a combo but, can vouch for the "believed true by repeated assertion" as to the length of time required for some of our more simple actions in the shop. I read an article just yesterday where a particular 'one blade does it all' pitch for a bandsaw blade would save you the 15 to 30 minutes required to change a blade. 15 minutes to change a bandsaw blade? I would have to break for coffee for it to take that long. Tablesaw blade takes a little over a minute including putting guards back on. The point being that something may annoy you but, if you time it a few times the reality of the actual effort will probably lessen the perception of duress.
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    If you plan your work flow, the changeover is really no problem. I only wise my machine had the electric up and down for the table that the 3ph version of it has.

    Anywho, I have a FS41 Elite S J/P. I'm pretty happy with it. I had a problem with the motor but was happy with the resulting fix which was that SCM air freighted a new motor to me direct from the factory in Italy. I was not a happy camper when the issue happened but I'm very happy with the response. I have three minimax machines, two of them current production and happy with them.

    I have one Felder machine and it's also pretty good.
    Bumbling forward into the unknown.

  7. #37
    So, I bought the FS 41 Elite! Everything checked out. Machine is in amazing condition. Ran a few test cuts in both jointer and planer mode, and it produces an unbelievable finish. Now, here's the problem. Getting from SD to my home in Irvine, hah. I have a booking ready to go on uShip, but man, the price sucks, but it includes inside pickup and inside delivery. So the expense is understandable. My original thought was to rent a liftgate truck and do it myself, but after seeing the machine, and the driveway I have to get it down, not to keen on that idea. It's doable, but the labor and anxiety of getting it home safely, always make me question doing it myself.

    Anyone have a reasonable freight shipping company they've used before?

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    Corey, congratulations on your J/P score! That's a nice machine and I'm sure you'll enjoy it. It sounds like you made a good decision to have it professionally moved. That's a lot of machine to handle and this way, any mishaps are insured. (Be sure it's not by weight, BTW...you want it to be covered for what it's worth)
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    The most expensive tool is the one you buy "cheaply" and often...

  9. #39
    Thanks, Jim! I'm very much looking forward to getting it set up and going. I added the value of the machine as the insured amount, so should be all covered.

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    All my freight has not included wjite glove service that you are wanting. That being said my best freight quotes come from calling freight shippers directly. Look at the sems around you all the time and call them.

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    I rolled the Elite S up my driveway with the help of the driver, my father, and a pallet jack. My driveway is pretty steep. I pay for lliftgate so I paid $500 to have the machine delivered
    Bumbling forward into the unknown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Coolidge View Post
    Personally I would NEVER buy another G0490. I purchased one and a Byrd Shelix cutter head for it. Wow so many quality issues with that jointer, manufacturing flaws, design flaws, retarded assembly instructions it had it all. WARPED FENCE, side extension table not flat, depth of cut indicator stupidity, useless depth of cut stop bolt, no flats on the handles to tighten them, RAZOR SHARP shards of metal sticking out where the 220v power cord goes, blade guard not tensioned and no flat to grab hold of it e.g. channel lock pliers. I'm a Grizzly fan but this is not their best machine. Also there were several small dents in the outfeed table like it was gouged with a punch, this pushed metal up above the surface that had to be filed down level.
    Wow! I guess the pendulum swings to both sides...

    I am totally satisfied with my G0490X...reading your experience took the wind out of my sails, Charles.
    Too much to do...Not enough time...life is too short!

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Bill Space View Post
    Wow! I guess the pendulum swings to both sides...

    I am totally satisfied with my G0490X...reading your experience took the wind out of my sails, Charles.
    That this long razor sharp shard at the bottom of the square tube sliced my hand open didn't help. My luck with machines is I either get an awesome machine that's near perfect or a total lemon.

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  14. #44
    Oh, man Sorry to see that happened, Charles. As for Grizzly, my one Grizzly tool (G0513X2 bandsaw) is awesome. Love that machine. But, with Grizzly it does seem to be luck of the draw.

    Yeah, the whiteglove service costs an extra $350, but the aggravation it saves me is worth it. Plus, like Jim said, if anything were to happen, it's on the delivery company, and not me.

    BTW, if anyone is interested in the Grizzly G0490X jointer I have on backorder, I'd gladly transfer the order over to you, if Grizzly would allow it. Would definitely save you a few months wait at least. PM me if you're interested.

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    Corey, congratulations on your purchase. I am sure you will enjoy the machine. Even though it costs a little more to get the while glove service, I would have done the same to avoid pain and risk.

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