[OP]
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Hello all,
I would like to apply paperbacked veneer to shiny most likely melamine. I will be sanding the surfaces with 100 grit sandpaper. The surfaces are vertical.
Can anyone suggest the type of adhesive I will need? I was thinking about this one https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...k_ql_qh_dp_hza
Thanks very much
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You might want to look into peel-and-stick veneer. For instance http://www.tapeease.com/PSA_veneer_sheets.htm
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100 grit is ok ,but make sure you don't go thru the melamine. I like the plastic resin glue because can be used thin and won't make a bumpy surface. Oops ,if the material is already installed vertical ,your first choice is better
Last edited by Mel Fulks; 03-02-2018 at 11:24 AM. Reason: better detail
[OP]
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The wife wants white cabinetry. Right now they are red oak. I could build the cabinets but I don't have the time right now.
We're having an addition put on to the house and the kitchen cabinets are coming into play. Cost is a major consideration. I'm going to make new doors. I did a veneer job once on mdf. It came out nice. I've read the horror stories about melamine.
The builder wants to put in thermofoil cabinets. I'm not going to swap out one crap cabinet for another crap cabinet.
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Could you clarify what the existing cabinets are and what you want? I assume you want white as you said your wife wants that. How about painting them?
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I used contact cement to glue paper backed veneer on the end panels of my Melamine kitchen cabinets. That was 22 years ago and they are still fine. I can't remember if I was smart enough at the time to sand the Melamine first, but that would be a good idea.
I can tell you that epoxy doesn't work unless you completely sand off the Melamine. Last Summer my friend sanded some end panels to scuff up the coating then used West Systems epoxy to glue on 1/16" shop sawn Sapele veneer. This Winter they have peeled off like potato chips. He'll be using PSA veneer for the repair. I did some Melamine panels with epoxy but sanded off the coating completely before gluing on the 1/16" shop sawn veneer. 3 years later they are still fine.
John
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Agree with Jim on thermo foil , very disappointing to see peeling foil that doesn't reveal some good chocolate
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I had issues a long time ago with rosewood veneer (no paper back, thicker like veneer uses to be) applied with solvent based contact cement. No problem on the application. I used Watco oil to finish and months later the contact cement started to fail. I concluded that the oil in the veneer weakened the contact cement.
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I like what you did there...Originally Posted by Mel Fulks
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OP, abrade and contact cement would be what I'd try, but thoroughly sanding the thin Melemine/foil off would be my first choice before trying to apply veneer.
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That contact cement contains some pretty unpleasant organic compounds so I wouldn't use it indoors http://www.dap.com/media/52081/00030536001english.pdf
Also paper-backed veneer will telegraph the slightest irregularity in the substrate or glue application. Phenolic-backed material would probably be the better choice.
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What am I missing? From what I gather he’s got red oak cabinets and is going to make new doors. Why isn’t paint an option?
[OP]
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The cabinet end panels and edges are most likely melamine. I don't like the idea of painting them; thinking the paint may peel. I have a sheet of red oak veneer that I have had for a long time. I figure I would veneer the cabinet sides and edges and then paint them white.
The cabinet doors are oak but are outdated cathedral style doors. My wife wants cabinets in the shaker style. I'll make new doors.
[OP]
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Yes, I'm aware of the fumes. I'll be refacing the cabinets in the spring time, with the windows open. Hopefully the stink will dissipate quickly. I contacted a couple of manufacturers of water-based contact adhesives and both didn't recommend their products.
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The Wife and I live in Montgomery Co, PA.I like what you did there...
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OP, abrade and contact cement would be what I'd try, but thoroughly sanding the thin Melemine/foil off would be my first choice before trying to apply veneer.
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Howdy, Neighbor! 'Hope the storm didn't hurt too much in your neighborhood.
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