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    SAC RS63S planer feed rollers

    Picked up really clean SAC planer with a Tersa head. The urethane out feed rolls will need recovered. I even have the manual and have no clue if they are on a sleeve that slides over the feed roller shaft or what.
    Place that did have parts in CA seems to be a dead end, western roller can provide new press on sleeves, plus other companies as well. Any one ever had a rubber roller on one of these off before, or seen what it looks like broken down?

    Planer leaves a great finish with the tersa head and carbide knives, but I need to address feed rollers. Hoping I could order what I needed before I had to take a roll out.

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    AFAIK most rubber rolls they have to machine off the old rubber and cast new in place. Then the new rubber is turned down to the correct diameter. There are shops that specialize in this work. No idea on cost.
    Bill D

    on edit: I had no idea they make heat shrink roller covers! No idea how strong or resilient they are or should be.

    https://www.grainger.com/category/heat-shrink-roller-covers/conveyors/material-handling/ecatalog/N-gbp?cm_sp=Product_Details-_-Categories_Based_on_Your_Search-_-IDPPLACAT

    Might help if we knew where you are?

    http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb...roller-185582/
    Last edited by Bill Dufour; 01-30-2018 at 10:47 PM.

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    Darcy,
    is that the planer you have listed for sale?

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Sincerbeaux View Post
    Darcy,
    is that the planer you have listed for sale?
    Yeah, I put it into service while I work on a couple of my Buss 4L's. Rubber rolls are decent, but not something I don't want to take care of. Tersa head is nice.

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    In case anyone finds this, I sent rollers to a place in TN called urethane specialists. They are casting them and grinding them true. Cost was very reasonable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darcy Warner View Post
    Rubber rolls are decent, but not something I don't want to take care of.

    I looked for one of those planers. I've got a bit of a soft spot for SAC equipment. I don't understand the rubber rollers. I guess if they aren't that expensive to replace that's one things, but are they easy to pull so you can send them out?

    When I was looking at a new planer, the SCM invincible was on my list of potentials, and they seemed super easy to swap out on that. Not cool though if you need a planer, and you've got a pile of parts once every few years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin Wasner View Post
    I looked for one of those planers. I've got a bit of a soft spot for SAC equipment. I don't understand the rubber rollers. I guess if they aren't that expensive to replace that's one things, but are they easy to pull so you can send them out?

    When I was looking at a new planer, the SCM invincible was on my list of potentials, and they seemed super easy to swap out on that. Not cool though if you need a planer, and you've got a pile of parts once every few years.
    It took me about 30 minutes to pull both rolls. Shipping will cost almost as much as having them recast.

    As far as having rubber rolls, I am not sure. This thing is a sweet finish planer, Tersa head, sectional rolls, chip breaker, 12hp, digital height, I guess they chose rubber to eliminate any chip impression in the planed surface? The rolls should last a long time, I think someone wasn't paying attention and got a board hung up in between the rolls and it started chewing them up.

    It planed great and fed fine, just something I needed to address.

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    I agree that Sac made some good stuff and their planer is worth a look. The only proprietary part as I recall is the module to control the table lift. The base is 6mm steel, the table is heavy and long front to back. Aluminum chipbreakers vs cast iron on SCM but well machined. The pressure bar adjustment on mine is not as easy as some old planers but a fairly strong design compared to many with just a spring steel piece attached to an extrusion. My rubber rollers are still good but the motor brake isn't adjusted right but at least there is one. The Tersa head is at least 120mm diameter and does leave a good finish. Dave

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    I ended up with a format 4 with a tersa head. It'll be a long time before I kill it. I'm kinda hoping it makes it to the end, but that might be unrealistic.
    Last edited by Martin Wasner; 02-06-2018 at 4:38 PM.

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    Martin, I know it is off topic but what is your opinion of the Format? I don't see many on the used market and will never justify new. Dave

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    It's okay. I bought mine used, but I don't think I'd go with the felder new. For a little bit more you can get an invincible, and for a little bit more than the invincible you can get a Martin. If you're spending the money, just go whole hog. It's not much when looking at the $20k+ planers.

    The build quality doesn't blow me away.
    Fit and finish is good, but not astronomical.
    Programming the key pad is a nightmare I haven't figured out yet.
    Cut quality is good, though mine needs some adjustment in the hold downs. I'm getting snipe when I shouldn't be.
    It is very smooth sounding
    Dust collection is top notch
    The feed rate adjustment is very good too.

    It does seem to mill very accurately, I would've liked to have seen a little more steel and mass in it's construction. That's my only real complaint.

    Darcy doesn't mind a thread hijack.

    (edit)- btw Dave, if you ever come through here, you should swing by. You'd get a kick outta my shop. And you can visit your T130.
    Last edited by Martin Wasner; 02-06-2018 at 5:53 PM.

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    As far as the SAC module being proprietary, the Des Moines tech school had one where it crapped out. The instructor had the electronics kids make a new one from scratch.

    The four people woodworkers need to know:

    -A machinist
    -A metal fabricator
    -An electrician
    -An electrical engineer

    You can solve just about any problem with those people on tap.

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    i'm lacking the electrical engineer. I bought a spare module when I got the SAC. I usually look at any electronics and if somethinglooks hard to replace, I buy a spare. When I do, I never eem to need it. Hope the T130 is still good. I seem to remember you had to change bearings? Dave

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    Most things can be repaired/retrofitted if you just think hard enough and know where to look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darcy Warner View Post
    Most things can be repaired/retrofitted if you just think hard enough and know where to look.
    thinking slows me down.

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