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    Calling people to get prices is a waste of everyone's time. For those of us who have other things to do, waiting for a phone call or the salesperson to get back from lunch is a pain. Either take the time to post prices as a starting point or learn to use email effectively. If the person can not compose and send an email then its time to move on.
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    Unfortunately Weike do no publish list prices but they respond instantly to email. Some Chinese suppliers do list prices online, Sinjoe for example. In the West dealers like Boss Laser, FSL, HPC, Rabbit USA etc. list prices. I don't see why the likes of Trotec and Epilog can post some ballpark prices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Outten View Post
    The price of a car on a lot varies from car to car based on model and options. The same is true of Laser Engravers, CNC Routers, etc.

    If you don't like the dealer in your area call the main office and ask for assistance. I purchased two Trotec Lasers and never talked to my local dealer and if you look around here you can find the contact information for someone at the Trotec office who would be glad to help. I try my best to keep this information current.
    Thanks Keith! We gave that a shot and we were referred back to the local dealer.

  4. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Bill George View Post
    Calling people to get prices is a waste of everyone's time. For those of us who have other things to do, waiting for a phone call or the salesperson to get back from lunch is a pain. Either take the time to post prices as a starting point or learn to use email effectively. If the person can not compose and send an email then its time to move on.
    Yes I agree with you! I can only call and email so many times before it just doesn't make sense anymore. No matter how great of a company is and how great their products are, if customer service isn't there, that should tell you something about them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Henriksen View Post
    Unfortunately Weike do no publish list prices but they respond instantly to email. Some Chinese suppliers do list prices online, Sinjoe for example. In the West dealers like Boss Laser, FSL, HPC, Rabbit USA etc. list prices. I don't see why the likes of Trotec and Epilog can post some ballpark prices.

    My thoughts exactly!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Shepherd View Post
    That's the way all 3 major manufactures do it. Call them and complain. A car manufacturer makes millions of cars. Lasers aren't cars. Not sure how to say it. So when you bought your Weike lasers, did you have to contact them for pricing, or was it done all online through a shopping cart?

    There aren't any laser manufacturers doing it, for the reasons I have repeated. They want you to contact them so they can determine which product suits your needs, as well as making that human contact. There are books written about making human contact and it's value in a sale. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it's wrong.

    Here's one study that talks about the importance of making phone contact with potential customers.... http://pages.velocify.com/rs/leads36...t-Strategy.pdf
    I did mine online and bought it. You can go to Rabbit, Automation and FSL and get prices and configure the way you want. I am sure there are others that do that also

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    Jay Cee, I think the comment about G. Weike was aimed at me as I have two lasers from them (see my signature).

    Based on information posted on this forum I have gathered that the price of the same model Epilog can vary by several thousand dollars depending on whether you buy it at a show or from a dealer. Some mentioned 20% difference. To me that's taking the piss. If I had bought one from a sales rep. who had assured me I got the lowest possible price and I then later found out someone had bought the machine 20% cheaper at a show I would be very upset. Hand on heart - is there anyone who wouldn't be upset to find themselves in that situation?

    Some years ago I was a dealer for a hobby related product from a Canadian manufacturer. Shortly after I received a large order they decided to offer a special deal on their own website and basically sell the product for less than I had paid for it. No advance notice to any dealers and I wasn't the only one that dropped them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Shepherd View Post
    That's the way all 3 major manufactures do it. Call them and complain. A car manufacturer makes millions of cars. Lasers aren't cars. Not sure how to say it. So when you bought your Weike lasers, did you have to contact them for pricing, or was it done all online through a shopping cart?

    There aren't any laser manufacturers doing it, for the reasons I have repeated. They want you to contact them so they can determine which product suits your needs, as well as making that human contact. There are books written about making human contact and it's value in a sale. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it's wrong.

    Here's one study that talks about the importance of making phone contact with potential customers.... http://pages.velocify.com/rs/leads36...t-Strategy.pdf
    The other part of the equation, and I believe the larger part, is that if you list the price of your laser and someone else lists theirs for a lower price, then most of the people shopping will tend to go with the lower price machine - regardless of the features and benefits of the higher priced machine, and there is no negotiating via a shopping cart. There are some people who will look past the price and actually make a decision based on the value of the machine, not the price, but they are few and far between.
    I have done so much with so little for so long, that I can do almost anything with practically nothing...

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    Good point about Boss, Rabbit and others who provide list prices as a starting point on their websites.

    If manufacturers are going to use a system of regional dealers/reps that a customer must use based on their location, the manufacturers are fools if they don't do some sort of monitoring and evaluation (both buying customers and those who did not buy). I hate when I get a bad salesperson and am stuck dealing with them. I will not deal with them unless there is no other choice and I will often pay a little more somewhere else just to NOT let them profit off of me. The bad reps basically become "protected." It "costs" the company in terms of sales and the customer in terms of prices and a lack of a satisfactory experience. The only one who profits is the bad rep. I will not beg a sales rep in order for them to make a profit off of a sale to me.
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    I like the ability to shop from other areas not being told that I have to deal with a particular office. I also like to comparison shop and get the best price. This is not a socialist state

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    A bad sales rep will cost the company in the long run. I guess I must be an exception because I comparison shop when buying anything. Price does not mean much if the machine does not work. Yeah I have a couple of Chinese lasers, but if I needed a Trotec for a full time business I would buy one. I work part time at the laser engraving trade but I am not working for nothing, some of my prices may be higher than the full timers here.
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    I think there is a machinery sales model in place with the US manufacturers. I'm my past, company bought a number of large injection molding machines. Most over 6 figures, some half a million. Thru reps, but absolutely no list or published prices just the way the world in machine sales works..
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    You're right John. What is, is. Why put a target on your back by posting prices.
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    The difference is, most large companies have purchasing agents or even entire departments whose only job is to set at a desk all day and make phone calls or send faxes. Laser engraving business, and correct me if I am wrong are a one man show or mom - pop business who are usually busy making money. Phone calls, the machine is shut down or someone leaves the counter un-attended.
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    Hey Jay,

    Your best bet if your spending alot of $$$ on a machine is to go to one shows and get a few quotes - They offer there best pricing at these events because there are 10 other competitors (Maybe More Depending on what your buying) in the same building fighting for your sale. Also when we purchase equipment we always hear this is the lowest possible price but this doesn't mean they cant throw in addons or offer a one time discounts on additional items - Our last large purchase we where able to get $4800 in addons for free - Dont be afraid to ask and if you are have a friend work the deal. One good tactic is having the cash or financing on hand when negotiating pricing - Once a dealer knows your serious and you make it know that you plan to purchase ASAP than they tend to be alittle more generous.

    Good Luck
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