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  1. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Beagle View Post
    What did you end up paying for the jointer. It's always been high on my list of wants.
    I got it for $1050. Seemed ok deal, Most Delta DJ20's I saw were over $1200. Does not have helical head though. 3ph too, so i have to get a VFD.

  2. #17
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    As you may know, HP is lost with a VFD. You can do the calculations, but you may want to consider swapping out the 3P motor for a single phase, unless you want to go the rotary phase converter route (where no HP is lost, if sized correctly).

  3. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Ramsey View Post
    As you may know, HP is lost with a VFD. You can do the calculations, but you may want to consider swapping out the 3P motor for a single phase, unless you want to go the rotary phase converter route (where no HP is lost, if sized correctly).
    The VFD I bought is designed for this I believe so I dont loose HP.

  4. #19
    Newer VFDs with Sensorless Vector Control (SVC) or Flux Vector Control will allow a motor to produce at or near both rated torque and Hp, even at lower than 100% speed.

    Simple (older) VFDs used just V/hz control, and if a motor was run at less than its synchronous speed, it would produce proportionally less than rated Hp. So if you plan to run slow with a old VFD, Jeff is correct.

    However, I can't imagine why you would want a jointer or planer to be running at less than its rated speed. If running at 100% speed, even using a old technology VFD, this power loss should be a non-issue. ....You would basically be using the VFD as a soft start only, and presumably for phase conversion in this case.
    Last edited by Malcolm McLeod; 02-24-2017 at 1:54 PM. Reason: phase converter

  5. #20

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malcolm McLeod View Post
    Newer VFDs with Sensorless Vector Control (SVC) or Flux Vector Control will allow a motor to produce at or near both rated torque and Hp, even at lower than 100% speed.

    Simple (older) VFDs used just V/hz control, and if a motor was run at less than its synchronous speed, it would produce proportionally less than rated Hp. So if you plan to run slow with a old VFD, Jeff is correct.

    However, I can't imagine why you would want a jointer or planer to be running at less than its rated speed. If running at 100% speed, even using a old technology VFD, this power loss should be a non-issue. ....You would basically be using the VFD as a soft start only, and presumably for phase conversion in this case.
    Im pretty sure I got Flux Capacitor Control - It says fluxmaster on it. https://www.tecowestinghouse.com/pro...ives/fm50.html




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