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    look out Epilog, Trotec & Uls... you've got a new laser in town

    oooh! 1000mw!
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    Found this on Ben's Bargains deal site. It'll be interesting to see how many help messages show up on the forum after folks decide to pick one of these up and can't get them to cut 1/2" walnut... ;-)
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    depending how you read it - 1000mW = 1W slow and shallow.
    But the other number 1000MW is 1,000,000,000W a billion watts now that could do some serious cutting
    Wouldn't want the electricity bill though
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Morris View Post
    depending how you read it - 1000mW = 1W slow and shallow.
    But the other number 1000MW is 1,000,000,000W a billion watts now that could do some serious cutting
    Wouldn't want the electricity bill though
    But it has 108 screws!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Pelonio View Post
    But it has 108 screws!
    And how bored was the poor sap that came up with that spec?

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    -- This is the product description of the
    NEJE DK-8-KZ 1000mW High Power Laser Engraver Printer Machine
    ...
    Price: Under $63 on GearBest.com

    Description:
    The laser engraver printer machine print of high power and high resolution, and soft material can print out the 3D and the gradient effect! Unique frame, weak light automatic positioning and frame positioning make the image positioning easier!

    Main Features:
    ● Support our professional English design software.
    ● 10 times faster engraving.
    ● Strong and cool design, high precision and stability.
    ● With 108 screws and alloy structure, make it strong.
    ● Can be used offline, even if leave the computer,only connect the two USB ports to charger or power bank (5V 1A).
    ● Lone time use, NEJE developed the professional power IC and radiator, carving time will last much longer than other laser and more stable.
    ● Truly 1000mW blue and purple laser head, more higher speed, support more types of materials.
    ● Can be carved items included: Hard wood, plastic, bamboo, rubber, leather, cut paper and so on.
    ● Support Win 7, XP, Win 8, Win 10.
    Specification

    Custom
    Laser Wavelength: : 405nm
    Image Size: : 512x512 pixels

    General
    Model: DK-8-KZ
    Frame material: Acrylic + Aluminum + Stainless Steel
    Memory card offline print: TF card
    Voltage: 4.2-5.5V
    Certificate: CE

    Dimensions and Weight
    Product weight: 0.970 kg
    Package weight: 1.611 kg
    Product size: 14.50 x 16.00 x 19.00 cm / 5.71 x 6.3 x 7.48 inches
    Package size: 30.00 x 20.00 x 21.00 cm / 11.81 x 7.87 x 8.27 inches

    Packing Contents
    Packing Contents: 1 x Engraving Machine, 1 x Laser Protective Glasses, 1 x Allen Wrench, 2 x USB Cables, 1 x 1GB TF Card, 1 x Install Software, 1 x English User Manual
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    1000 mW = 1 watt. I don't thing ULS, Tortech, or Epilog have anything to worry about. Thank you for the laugh.
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    I took a tour of Universal laser plant the other day. They had some seminars on their lasers. They claim to be faster then Trotec and Epilog and have data to prove it. I asked about tubes and in particular ceramic tubes. They said their tube's have years of data and that ceramic tubes can't show any data to show there better or will last longer. Their tube's are welded aluminum where and ceramic tubes are glued together. They told me their tubes last about 5 years give of take and it really didn't matter that much on how many hours usage it had, which is about average for those types tube of any brand. Just thought I'd pass along what they said. I realize they are throwing a sales pitch at me also.
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    The last I saw was that they were using two tubes running two jobs simultaneously to be "faster" - not really an apples-to-apples comparison. Ceramic tubes have been around for a long time and have plenty of data to support their benefit vs metal tubes - maybe Trotec doesn't have the longevity yet and that is what they are referring to. They are completely wrong about the tubes being glued together. They are created in two halves but they are fused together with the same material they are made from and truly become a single, solid piece of material. Just like "gluing" acrylic with Weld-on, it isn't just an adhesive that sticks two pieces together, it is fusing the two parts together to become one. Not much I hate more than a sales pitch that relies on downplaying the competition rather than showing how theirs is actually better, especially when the downplaying is not the actual truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Pelonio View Post
    But it has 108 screws!
    Massive upgrade: the older model only had 96.
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    As to running 2 tubes simultaneously, and "engraving speed" in general...

    I'm no Sheldrake by any stretch (<great big disclaimer) but- it's my understanding that there's 2 ways to run simultaneous tubes:

    1- both pointed in exactly the same place, effectively doubling power,
    2- both pointed exactly one resolution line apart, effectively doubling speed (less the minor speed loss in the Y axis from moving twice as far per sweep)

    Whether there's a machine out there that can operate at both these scenarios, I haven't a clue, but what a versatile machine it would be---

    As to the speed issue, a machine laying down 2 lines at once is going to put down 500 lines with only 250 sweeps. Mathematically speaking, that's twice as fast. Realistically speaking, a machine laying down 2 lines at 100ips may not be twice as fast as a 150ips machine, but it's still going to engrave MUCH faster. And in many cases, I would bet it could double the speed, simply because a 150ips machine doesn't have time to reach that speed in short distances.
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    ● Can be carved items included: Hard wood, plastic, bamboo, rubber, leather, cut paper and so on.

    Hmmm Cuts paper! Between that and the 108 screws, sounds like a winner.
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    Aw man... mine only has 106 screws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Leavitt View Post
    Aw man... mine only has 106 screws.
    You could buy this one to add to your collection and be fully screwed...

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    I have a few loose screws you can borrow


    Quote Originally Posted by Gary Hair View Post
    You could buy this one to add to your collection and be fully screwed...
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    I haven't got that many screws but I am surrounded by nuts
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