Well, I came across two nice planes recently in a flea market and I'm glad I didn't keep walking. I'm not sure but I think the jack is a Wards Master no.7 and I don't know what the rabbet plane is. After hours of sanding rust, filing nicks, replacing screws, and sharpening the iron, I can take the jack and make paper with it. I will probably re-stain the totes. Now I've got to start on the rabbet plane, luckily it doesn't need much work. It is "rabbet plane" isn't it?