Originally Posted by
Scott Shepherd
Ahh Matt, good to see you've not lost the ability to completely find hidden meaning, messages, and intent in what people posted. That's a skill that I apparently haven't learned yet. It's very easy to read intent and run with it, but if the original poster said that wasn't the intent, then your entire premise is false, therefore, meaningless.
When I said "dozens of of predicted so much of this", and then you jump to the things people predicted that didn't happen, that doesn't make my statement false. I didn't say "dozens of us all agreed on every single topic posted". I said many of us have repeatedly said the things that would be problematic for them, and to date, they are still problematic. When we said you couldn't go from zero to delivering machines in the timeframe THEY said, who was right there? We were. The fact that almost 2 years later, they still haven't delivered, to most, would be game, set, and match in a discussion about who was correct on that point. However, some seem to be able to twist that into some mind boggling "everything is still on track, running just as expected" logic.
Most people also understand the use of generalizations to express their belief. That's what the 2,000 figure was. Why you chose to take that as literal instead of figurative, I don't know. I was expressing a point, the number was completely irrelevant. You could change the number to anything you want and it doesn't change the point I was making.
No need for you to assume my intent, if you think I intended to say or mean something just ask me to clarify and I'll gladly do so. It would save a lot of typing on both parts. You wouldn't have to type what you thought I meant and I wouldn't have to explain that wasn't what I meant when I typed it.
To date, they still haven't delivered production machines. I don't care if that's "normal" for startups, I don't care if that's "an average" for start ups, all I care about is comparing what THEY promised versus what THEY have delivered (or not delivered). That's factual data available, no opinions on intent needed.
I don't like or dislike their customers, I don't like or dislike the company. I can have opinions on the way I think this is going to play out. I do think it's a build a company and sell it play. Nothing devious with that. Do I think that that decision impacts the model they finally release? I do. I could be wrong, we will have to wait and see.