Windows 10

[John Coloccia]

I am really starting to like Windows 10 actually. They fixed the biggest issue which was the Metro interface. They upgraded all the desktop and taskbar functionality, and the new surf tool is an improvement over IE. I have had 0 problems albeit have needed to learn a few things. If people don't like the idea of learning something a bit different they are being foolish. To quote an old commercial "Try it, you'll like it!"

I generally like what they've done too, but it's the new Microsoft. They seem hell-bent on this crazy, power hungry control grab at all costs. They should back off now and go back to a normal update schedule before the entire world forces them too...just like we killed Vista...and killed 8. We'll happily kill 10 as well, and not getting some obscure security updates doesn't scare me. I could stay on 10 for the next 20 years, and so can everyone else.

I wish they'd fix it because I'd really like to upgrade. C'est la vie.

[Curt Harms]

I generally like what they've done too, but it's the new Microsoft. They seem hell-bent on this crazy, power hungry control grab at all costs. They should back off now and go back to a normal update schedule before the entire world forces them too...just like we killed Vista...and killed 8. We'll happily kill 10 as well, and not getting some obscure security updates doesn't scare me. I could stay on 10 for the next 20 years, and so can everyone else.

I wish they'd fix it because I'd really like to upgrade. C'est la vie.

Would upgrading to the 'enterprise' version or possibly the pro version help? I'm pretty sure you can control/defer updates for some period of time - 8 months? - on the enterprise version and I thought there was a way to defer updates on the pro version as well. I can understand MicroSoft's desire to make sure home users are patched and know better than to rely on home users to do it themselves. For myself, Win10 running in a Virtualbox VM is working nicely and I have a known functional backup that can be restored in minutes if things get crossways. Then again, I haven't had a reason to start Windows in weeks.

[John Coloccia]

Would upgrading to the 'enterprise' version or possibly the pro version help? I'm pretty sure you can control/defer updates for some period of time - 8 months? - on the enterprise version and I thought there was a way to defer updates on the pro version as well. I can understand MicroSoft's desire to make sure home users are patched and know better than to rely on home users to do it themselves. For myself, Win10 running in a Virtualbox VM is working nicely and I have a known functional backup that can be restored in minutes if things get crossways. Then again, I haven't had a reason to start Windows in weeks.

I'm waiting to see how it really shakes out. I think I'm running the "Pro" of 7 on everything anyway, but I'm waiting to hear from IT guys that they can effectively keep their systems running.

Restoring from a backup won't help if an update fails. It simply tries to reinstall it the next time you run Windows. There's no way simple way to stop it. If you're going to force people to take updates, they need to work across the board, every time...period. If they can't, and it looks like they can't, then it's a lousy idea that should be killed before it's had a chance to cause real damage.

[Dave Lehnert]

I can find it as an issue for windows 10 via a Google search. My laptop is brand new 8.1 updated to windows 10 less than a week after purchase. I just got off remote help with HP and they work with my computer for about an hour with no success fixing the issue. Seemed like they were trying too hard to find the problem. I'm seeing fixes on the net but nothing I trust or understand exactly what to do.

As an example
http://www.thewindowsclub.com/window...oes-not-launch

HP got back to me tonight.
They took control of my computer again and started to run all kinds of programs. They seemed to think I had a virus of some kind. After about 1/2 hr and seeing computer scans were going to take a very long time, I showed HP the link in my post above. They did what was said to do and it fixed the problem right away in less than a min.

Hope this may help someone if needed.

[Curt Harms]

I'm waiting to see how it really shakes out. I think I'm running the "Pro" of 7 on everything anyway, but I'm waiting to hear from IT guys that they can effectively keep their systems running.

Restoring from a backup won't help if an update fails. It simply tries to reinstall it the next time you run Windows. There's no way simple way to stop it. If you're going to force people to take updates, they need to work across the board, every time...period. If they can't, and it looks like they can't, then it's a lousy idea that should be killed before it's had a chance to cause real damage.

Here is what seems like a decent overview of Windows 10 updates.

http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/turn-of...es-windows-10/

Microsoft’s New Updating Methods

Throughout the entire Technical Preview a whole new scheme for updating Windows 10 was used. It involved fast and slow rings, which controlled how frequently updates were installed on the participant’s devices depending on which ring they belonged to. Now that Windows 10 is being sent out into the wild, update branches (described below) will be used to decide who gets updates at what time once they are available.
The most flexibility is with the Enterprise edition on the Long Term Servicing Branch (LTSB). This is only available for customers with a Volume Licensing Agreement (VLA) or Software Assurance (SA) and it allows any update to be postponed indefinitely.


In the middle, we have the Professional, Enterprise, and Education editions with the Current Branch for Business (CBB). It allows users to defer updates for an unspecified amount of time before they are forced onto the machines. This allows companies to test the security patches, fixes, and new features before rolling them out via Windows Server Update Services (WSUS) or other compatible patch management systems such as System Center Configuration Manager, thus allowing more company control while still making sure all updates eventually get rolled out.


And at the bottom of our list we have Windows 10 Home which uses the Current Branch (CB). It allows very little control over updates. The other issue that arises with the Home edition is that Microsoft has decided to apply the same behavior to all apps installed from the Store. A user can initiate an update check and install cycle, but you cannot select what updates will be applied. You simply get them all.

Microsoft has been pretty upfront about the fact that home users get Win 10 updates first and in waves. If there aren't too many screams of pain and anguish those updates are released to commercial users. At least that's how I understand it.

[Dave Lehnert]

Here is another Windows 10 issue.

I received an e-mail on how to use Windows 10. Gives a list of links.
When I click on the links it will tell me they only work with Windows 10.
I also get info every now and then that my Windows 10 upgrade is on its way.
I have been running Windows 10 for two weeks or so?
Why do they think I am still running Windows 8???????

[Mike Henderson]

Little off subject but I've been running Windows 10 on two machines for a couple of weeks now. I had issues on one machine that caused to go to Tier II support but they handled it well. So far, everything is running fine - no problem with any programs and the system, itself, is doing well.

It's nice to get both computers on the same OS. Before I was running one on Win 7 and the other on Win 8. It was kind of a headache getting both computers converted, however, and it took some time on my part. Definitely not download and forget.

Mike

[Lee Schierer]

So what happened to the "Guest" account. We had one set up in Windows 81, but Windows 10 didn't carry it over and doesn't seem to allow one to get set up if you try to name it Guest.