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    Tell me about an Air Rifle

    Ran across an old pellet gun we had as kids and got to looking at them online. Looks like the newer "Air Rifle" has gotten a lot more advanced.
    I saw a video on line where a guy was dropping Groundhogs like nothing. I would have never guessed a pellet gun could be that powerful.

    So tell me about your pellet gun.
    Anyone own the Gamo Big Cat .22 cal? can a Single cocking system be that powerful? The gun we had as kids you had to pump 6 or 8 times and don't remember it being too powerful.
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    When I was a kid in the 1950's, I had a Red Ryder that would shoot a consistent curve. I could hit something behind a tree with it. I have a single cock smaller caliber pellet gun, and the one pump does put plenty of velocity on the pellet. It was bought for a persistent woodpecker. It's not as accurate as a regular .22, but does reasonably well.

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    Yes Dave, air rifles have come a LONG way.
    A progression from pumpers & CO2 to springers and finally PCPs (Pre-Charged Pneumatics).
    As an example, Jim Chapman has several blogs detailing his hunting excursions. From the US to Africa Jim takes game from birds to wild hogs and deer via his pneumatic pee shooters.

    I own 12 shooters in .177, .22 and .25 caliber. All are either break barrel (springer) or PCP.
    Four of them ran well over 3K with glass.
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    Lewis and Clark packed an air rifle on their little walk about...
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    The origin of Hans and Franz "We vill pomp YOU up!" -

    The Girandoni air rifle was carried by the Austrian army.
    No powder to keep dry. Ten pounds of kit required to
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    I have an Anschutz made, Crossman 6500, in .177. Single cock, spring operated. It won't drop a groundhog, but I can take squirrels out of trees with it if I want too. Pretty darn accurate for it's price range. I used to be able to hit Necco Wafers all day long with it, out to some pretty impressive distances for a .177.
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    Modern air rifles can easily get velocities over 1500 fps. I have a 50 year old Benjamin 22 cal. Pump air rifle that can penetrate a 3\4" pine board at 30 feet wit lead Bbs.

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    Dave, just got the Gamo Big Cat .177 cal and it is night & day different than my old pellet guns! Power is amazing but it sounds a lot like a .22 when it goes off! One issue I have with it, so far, is experimenting with different weight pellets to find something that can handle the increase in speed - regular weight pellets tend to go wild. Been reading that the domed pellets around the 10.7 gr size will work well but haven't been able to pick any up to give it a try.
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    I have a youth model Gamo .177. Keep it handy for pesky chipmunks. Only down side is the rail is poorly formed to take a scope mount...won't tighten up enough to keep from sliding due to the spring action. I've tried a scope mount stop to no avail. I think I'll just epoxy the mount.
    I had the pump it a dozen times model as a kid as well...they have come a long way.

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    I wore out a Crossman pump. Really liked it. A little under powered. I now have a Ruger break barrel. This one will drop rabbits, no problem. Chipmunks explode.
    When you oil it as directed, it sounds like a .22 rifle. It's a heavy sucker, but accurate at >1,000 fps.
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    I have a Crossman Storm XT .177 pellet rifle.
    I have killed groundhogs from 100 ft. but it has to be a head shot to do the job.
    Its also amazingly accurate. I paid somewhere about $125 for it.

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    When I was a kid my cousin and I used to target practice with a German made Diana pellet rifle, 3 years ago I bought my own Diana but the difference was like night and day, the new one is much more refined and more powerful than the old one.
    Since then I bought myself another springer (Beeman) but the most powerful gun that I own now (Crosman Nitro Venom) , powered with a gas piston rather than a spring, it's a .22 cal,close to 1000 feet per second.very accurate the best thing is you can leave it cocked for a long time unlike the springers.
    I recently got a pellet handgun (Walther CP88) but for some reason I don't enjoy shooting with it as much as the Nitro Venom.
    One thing that has not been mentioned is the quality of the new pellets,they are more accurate and heavier if you like varmint hunting , my favorite :Exact Jumbo heavy .
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    I have an old pump up Sheridan rifle that I take out woodchucks with usually around 100 t0 150 feet

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    Actually PCP's have been around for hundreds of years.

    Quote Originally Posted by G. Brad Schmidt View Post
    Yes Dave, air rifles have come a LONG way.
    A progression from pumpers & CO2 to springers and finally PCPs (Pre-Charged Pneumatics).
    As an example, Jim Chapman has several blogs detailing his hunting excursions. From the US to Africa Jim takes game from birds to wild hogs and deer via his pneumatic pee shooters.

    I own 12 shooters in .177, .22 and .25 caliber. All are either break barrel (springer) or PCP.
    Four of them ran well over 3K with glass.
    And turners think their addiction can be expensive.
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    20 years or so ago I picked up a .177 Crosman 3100, a made in Spain spring gun. It's rated at 600 fps which by modern standards is pretty leisurely. It's been plenty accurate for target, Norway rats and one possum. Hit the possum in the head, he went right out.

    Normally I leave possums alone but this one runs running in circles in my yard in the middle of the day. Something wasn't right with him. I was glad to have that pellet rifle handy that day.

    Now airguns have gotten so powerful that dieseling can be a problem, the heat created by the air compression ignites the lubricating oil. Can really send the pellet out in a hurry but wrecks the gun.

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