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    Fiber Lasers

    I'm looking for some information on fibers, specifically galvo. Interested in it for promo product marking (quick through put), marking of plastics, and metals (specifically knives and guns). My CO2 does okay, but I would like to step it up a notch.

    I would love to get some feedback on some Chinese models. Huge price difference between them and some US made version. I would like to buy US and would certainly consider a used machine.

    Thanks,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark E Wilson View Post
    I would love to get some feedback on some Chinese models. Huge price difference between them and some US made version. I would like to buy US and would certainly consider a used machine.
    The huge price difference with fibers is for the exact same reason you see a similar price difference with CO2 models... you're paying for tech support, quality control, and higher-quality components. As with the CO2, many happily get away with a Chinese machine, while others prefer the stability of a western machine.
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    I've got a G. Weike 30 watt fiber and it has worked out really well for me. Dan is right about the tech support but the quality of the machine is way beyond what they do with co2 machines. It may not have the finishing touches like the big brands may have, but the working parts of it are functionally identical to what you would pay several times more. I have recommended their machines to a few people and I know of at least two that have bought them and are doing quite well with them! It's not like the Chinese co2 machines where they have glass vs metal tubes, the fiber source is virtually identical and performs as well as it's more $ counterparts. The software is lacking but functional and the support is almost non-existent, but the more people that buy them the better support network we can put together. If you want specifics feel free to email me ghair at nwlaserimage dot com

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary Hair View Post
    The software is lacking but functional and the support is almost non-existent, but the more people that buy them the better support network we can put together.
    Do you have to use their software or can you use Corel Draw?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Chance in Iowa View Post
    Do you have to use their software or can you use Corel Draw?
    I use Corel for all the initial drawing but you have to use their software to send it to the laser. The processing needed for a fiber is 100% different than a co2 and can't simply be done within a driver like you can on a co2. Sometimes it's frustrating when I want to laser an image that would be a no brainer on the co2 but on the fiber it's a royal pita... and that's not because of the fact it's a Chinese laser, it's because it's a fiber.

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    I'm getting interested in a fiber also, 50w or more, but it has have at least a 12x12" engraving 'footprint'. These 100mm engraving area machines are useless to me.

    Seems a gantry fiber in less that 500w doesn't exist...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev Williams View Post
    I'm getting interested in a fiber also, 50w or more, but it has have at least a 12x12" engraving 'footprint'. These 100mm engraving area machines are useless to me.

    Seems a gantry fiber in less that 500w doesn't exist...
    The Trotec Speedy 300 comes in a 50W package...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Hintz View Post
    The Trotec Speedy 300 comes in a 50W package...

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    Gary - does it run on SCAPS, the German scanner software? Did you deal with a state side dealer or go direct? Trotec contacted me because of the initial post. I'll give their machine a look. I'll send you a PM. I wish we were closer!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark E Wilson View Post
    Gary - does it run on SCAPS, the German scanner software?

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    LOL, I don't think you'll find German scanning software running on the Chinese lasers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark E Wilson View Post
    Gary - does it run on SCAPS, the German scanner software? Did you deal with a state side dealer or go direct? Trotec contacted me because of the initial post. I'll give their machine a look. I'll send you a PM. I wish we were closer!


    Mark
    It uses a program called Ez-Cad. It is a workable program but nothing to get too excited about. I bought direct from G. Weike. I'll reply to your email later with more info, lots of work to do this morning!

    Gary

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    I have a Wisely 20W Galvo and am very happy with it so far as I've only had it a few weeks now. It does everything it is supposed to do and does a beautiful job. I am running the Ezcad 2.8 and it is pretty easy to operate. The manual is actually pretty good. Much better than Laser Cut manual I have for my CO2 laser. I find Corel works well with it.

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    Actually, a while back someone pointed me towards a Chinese fiber that ran on SCAPS. I gave up trying to get more information out of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary Hair View Post
    I've got a G. Weike 30 watt fiber and it has worked out really well for me. Dan is right about the tech support but the quality of the machine is way beyond what they do with co2 machines. It may not have the finishing touches like the big brands may have, but the working parts of it are functionally identical to what you would pay several times more. I have recommended their machines to a few people and I know of at least two that have bought them and are doing quite well with them! It's not like the Chinese co2 machines where they have glass vs metal tubes, the fiber source is virtually identical and performs as well as it's more $ counterparts. The software is lacking but functional and the support is almost non-existent, but the more people that buy them the better support network we can put together. If you want specifics feel free to email me ghair at nwlaserimage dot com
    Gary, did you get the LF20 from Weike? How much they quote you? PM will be appreciated.

    Thanks.

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    It's an LF30 actually - the 30 watt version of what they show on their website. I bought it over a year ago so the price I paid is completely irrelevant and I won't share it now. Contact Lucy - han@wklaser.com, she will treat you very well!

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