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    What's in coffee besides coffee?

    It's obvious that coffees that say "hazelnut" or "vanilla" etc. have something in them besides coffee. What about the one's that don't? The gourmet coffees such as Starbucks, Seattle's Best, Rainforest have various coffees whose names and packages don't identify any non-coffee ingredients, but, to me, many of them taste like they have some other ingredient added. They don't have unpleasant tastes. However, I don't like them as well as less sophisticated coffees.

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    well you asked

    Caffeine


    Water

    2-Ethylphenol

    Quinic acid

    3,5 Dicaffeoylquinic acid

    Dimethyl disulfide

    Acetylmethylcarbinol

    Putrescine

    Trigonelline

    Niacin


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    are you saying these are additives or chemicals naturally occurring?
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    To the best of my knowledge, Starbucks doesn't add anything to the beans. What I think you are tasting is the trace minerals that are absorbed by the coffee plant from the air, soil and water where they are grown. The other main variants are the type of bean (arabica or robusta) and the roast. Arabica Beans are considered the best, though robusta beans are added for espresso. Picking, drying and roasting techniques would have an effect on taste as well.

    Me, I hate flavored coffee. I find Starbucks French Roast overdone and a bit too bitter. For Starbucks, I like Sumatra brewed very strong. Illy or Torefazione would be my preferred cup, but LOML prefers Starbucks.
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    I find Sumatra to be the right balance of flavors for me. Starbucks always seems to have an over roasted flavor.

    There was a coffee shop across the street that roasted their own beans. The best cup of coffee I have ever had was a Sumatra coffee where the beans had been roasted 12 hours before. It was other worldly.
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    Whatever is in it, smells wonderful, tastes horrible.
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    So much of this is subjective...it's a matter of personal taste. I have tried many different brands and found just one domestic brand I like. I drink enough I should have bought stock 40 years ago.....
    Last edited by Ken Fitzgerald; 05-11-2012 at 9:05 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Fitzgerald View Post
    So much of this is subjective...it's a matter of personal taste. I have tried many different brands and found just one domestic brand I like. I drink enough I should have bought stock 40 years ago.....
    Which brand do you like Ken? As for domestic brands I would say I like 8 o clock the best.

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    Last edited by Ken Fitzgerald; 05-11-2012 at 9:05 AM.

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    my dad used to travel down to el salvador and some of the other coffe growing regions. he brought back some local coffee beens. when we use the french press they make the best tasting coffee i have ever had.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dana Decker View Post
    well you asked

    Caffeine


    Water

    2-Ethylphenol

    Quinic acid

    3,5 Dicaffeoylquinic acid

    Dimethyl disulfide

    Acetylmethylcarbinol

    Putrescine

    Trigonelline

    Niacin

    why did you fail to mention the sugar content ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Peterson View Post
    I find Sumatra to be the right balance of flavors for me. Starbucks always seems to have an over roasted flavor.

    <snip>
    That's why a lot of people (me included) call them by the nickname "Charbucks".

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    The chemicals in unflavored coffees are naturally occurring. Especially if the beans are ground in front of you, it would imply flavoring the whole beans, which is not that easy to do consistently.

    Those chemicals are all naturally occuring, but that's not to say they're good for you in large quantities. I'm no doctor or toxicologist, but I do manufacture synthetic fragrance chemical blends, and I can tell you that a lot of those amine and sulphur components are the key to natural things smelling as natural and tasty as they do.

    When I say naturally occurring, I mean they either occur in the RAW bean itself, or develop as a result of the roasting of the bean.

    As the proteins in fruits and meats decomposes, additional sulfur and amines are generated that make the food smell rotten. One of those items is putrecine, whose prefix comes from 'putrid'.
    Last edited by Prashun Patel; 05-11-2012 at 9:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Fitzgerald View Post
    So much of this is subjective...it's a matter of personal taste. I have tried many different brands and found just one domestic brand I like. I drink enough I should have bought stock 40 years ago.....
    Folgers? Folgers is my go-to in the cheap coffee range. I can sometimes find starbucks coffee at the mennonite grocery store for cheaper than folgers, but i agree with the comments above that starbucks has an over-roasted or overly-acidic aftertaste that isn't very good.

    I generally like any straightforward coffee where the coffee is good and smooth, and the maker doesn't try to differentiate themselves by adding some flavor or aftertaste, because the result is usually worse in the name of being identifiable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Weaver View Post
    Folgers? Folgers is my go-to in the cheap coffee range. I can sometimes find starbucks coffee at the mennonite grocery store for cheaper than folgers, but i agree with the comments above that starbucks has an over-roasted or overly-acidic aftertaste that isn't very good.

    I generally like any straightforward coffee where the coffee is good and smooth, and the maker doesn't try to differentiate themselves by adding some flavor or aftertaste, because the result is usually worse in the name of being identifiable.
    Folgers is what I drink.....a lot of it.....everyday........Too much probably!

    It's cheap and I know what to expect when I pour a cup.
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    Ken - Do you brew your coffee for a strong cup or, like my parents and grandparents, brew it to be slightly darker than tea?

    I ask because us folks in the vanguard of generation X take our coffee dark. almost black hole dark.
    Measure twice, cut three times, start over. Repeat as necessary.

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