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[Bill Cunningham]

I bought a spray can of it 8 years ago. The spray cans kept clogging, and cans within a lot number were being replaced for free (mine was in that lot number) My supplier sent me a new can, said to store it on it's side, and shake it for a full 2 minutes before using it. They did not want the old can back, and it was almost full. I released the pressure from it, and poured the contents into a small mason jar, let the rest dry, then scraped it into the mason jar. I added enough alcohol to thin it nicely, and I'm still using it 8 years later. The replacement can is on it's side in the cupboard, and I really don't care if it works or not anymore, I can always salvage the contents. I have done thousands of $ worth of product over that time. Cermark is probably the overall lowest cost/highest profit material I use.

[Steve Rozwood]

I haven't worked with it since they improved it. "Invested" $100 or so in a bottle then set up an airbrush
and couldn't get it to work reasonably and consistantly. When they came out with their new and improved
version a few years back, I believe they initially offed a 25% discount. I called and asked if I could return
the old product that I couldn't get to work to try the new version one word NO. So to make a long story longer I don't use it. Instead of bringing a new customer into the fold they lost one.

I don't know I guess I'm getting cratchety in my old age, but I have started to quit dealing with
those that don't meet expatations for good service. There are a handful of vendors out there that go the extra
step to make sure everthing is right there are many more that really don't care. I know
many here have had good luck with the product so that's great. Maybe I just got a salesman
on a bad day.

As you can see many have tried to come up with different formulas but they never withstand the test
of time. So as others have said if you can make money with it I guess it's worth it.

Martin,

I noticed that you have a problem using our material in the past. I was wondering what product you purchased from us? I am here to offer any assistance in correcting the situation.

As far as an "Improved Version of LMM-6000" the formula has not changed for over 10 years now since the development.

Please contact me and I can provide you with any technical support if you wish to re-evalute our product.

[Mike Null]

Steve
What happened to my color samples?

[Steve Rozwood]

Mike,
Our records indicated that the free samples, 50 grams - RD-6151 and 50 grams - Rd-6150, shipping to St Louis Laser Inc ‘’ ‘’ has not been completed. I am not sure where they are but I will push another order through as soon as possible. I am very sorry about this and will try to find out what happened to the last order.
Sorry about the inconvenience,
Please contact me if you have any more concerns.
Regards,

[Dee Gallo]

Steve, are those numbers for ceramic or metal? Have you got red for metal yet? Last I heard it was not available, but it would sure be welcome!

thanks, dee

[Steve Rozwood]

Those are our Copper and Pearl colors for Stainless Steel and believe me when we get Red on Metal the world will know.

[Tammy Larrabee]

Cermark is actually a very cost effective way to mark metal, The trick is the whole thickness/power/speed/and scan gap issue, and I know how frustrating it can be when you are in the 'figuring it out' phase *hits self in head with hammer*

Steve saved my cookies not even a full week ago, btw Steve, the customer rec'd his purchase today and was thrilled!

I'm thinking I will be trying the copper soon.. but I'm crazy

[Dan Hintz]

I asked for a sample of the copper and pearl white when they hit the "soon to be released" stage a couple of years back, but I never received anything. I can see some pretty slick projects being done with it, that's for sure.

[Steve Rozwood]

Thanks Tammy, I'm glad we figured out that whole banding issue. It's funny, I tell people all the time when working with metal to do a test grid using 100% power and varry the speed of the machine but we learned that's not always the best solution. This taught me to take a step back and maybe something else may be going on. I'm glad that your customer liked the final piece, very nice artwork, couldn't imagine them not liking it.

Dan, I can't find you in our system please contact my e-mail and I will see about getting some samples to you.