I like some here tinker, but mostly do woodwork and woodturning. I do enjoy making some of my own tools though. I don’t have the room or the desire for a full metal work shop. It seems to me you would need a mill as well as a metal lathe to really do much. So I ask this to those who’s tried a small lathe and mills: Based on doing odd jobs/tinkering in a home woodshop are the following class of machines a waste of money?
http://www.grizzly.com/products/Combo-Lathe-w-Milling-Attachment/G0516
or
http://www.grizzly.com/products/7-x-12-Mini-Metal-Lathe/G8688
and
http://www.grizzly.com/products/Mini-Milling-Machine/G8689