Hi All,
Kicking around buying a shoulder plane. Was looking at the veritas line and was wondering what size you prefer. I will be using it mainly for cleaning up tenon cheeks , etc.
thanks
Mike
Hi All,
Kicking around buying a shoulder plane. Was looking at the veritas line and was wondering what size you prefer. I will be using it mainly for cleaning up tenon cheeks , etc.
thanks
Mike
I really like my medium.
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+1 medium. A large would be nice but if I could only have one it would be the medium.
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My newest purchase is the Veritas medium. 1st shoulder plane, so I can't speak to size preference, but I can say that this is an extremely well made tool. Along with my Veritas low angle block plane, which I use all the time, and their inexpensive flush plane, which was purchased to solve a specific problem, but has found numerous uses since, I am very happy with Lee Valley/Veritas tools and will buy from them again in the future.
This is a bit of a thread hijack but how does the Veritas med shoulder plane compare to the Lie Neilson med shoulder plane ( only $16 difference)? Their is a difference in width and design but is one better in use than the other?
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I have a large LN shoulder plane and it gets the job done, especially on, say, a 2-foot long groove and sometimes for "jointing" tenons. But I often lust for something one size smaller, both for the sake of man handling it and for the slightly lesser mass. This big one is pretty assertive. On the other hand, the one good-quality wooden one I have with skewed blade feels like a feather. I think I want something in between. Just where my head is lately. I'll probably slog along with this one until some odd luck brings me a different size.
I have the LN large and small (skipped the medium). The small is great for most shoulder work. There are not too many shoulders > 5/8" for most furniture making. The large works great for everything else (including non shoulder work - e.g. large dados/grooves, rabbets, tenons, etc.).
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I have a LV large and I wanted something smaller. I just picked up a good deal ($99) on Stanley Premium #92 medium shoulder plane from Hartville Tool. There may be some purists who detest the new "Premium" Stanley planes but they are very reasonable for what I do and priced almost half of the top liners.
Rich
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Another vote for the LV Medium. I use mine all the time,very nice tool.
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I have the LN large, medium, and small and find myself always reaching for the medium. I do not have any Veritas planes and try to keep all my tool purchases of "made in USA".
Adjustments are easier on the Veritas plane.
Regarding tenon cheeks and shoulder planes - not a good match. Consider a block plane - rabbeting or skew rabbet let you get all the way to the shoulder.
For myself, I prefer chisels and/or files/rasps for adjusting tenon cheeks and shoulders.
If you find you need to do this a lot - say on 1/5 or more of your sawn tenons, I'd suggest investing in your sawing skills rather than tenon tuning skills. A few hours of lessons/practice with sawing will save you days worth of tuning time in the future.
Tim
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Mike,
Welcome to the Creek. Your profile doesn't show your location. There might be a tool show coming to an area near you in the future.
As someone else mentioned, if your intention is to mostly use this plane on the cheeks, a block rabbet plane may be more desirable.
If there is a tool show or possibly a person in your area who has these tools, the best way to see what you will prefer is to try them before you buy them.
If you live near southern Washington, you would be welcome to come by and try my tools. I do not have any of the veritas planes, but you might be able to get a feel for size from my Stanley 93.
jtk
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I have a large LN, a medium LV and a small Preston (LN style, not the infilled). My favorite is the large LN and I've grown accustomed to using it with a pull motion. My next favorite (for the simple reason the the large LN will do most items for me) is the small Preston, for when I need a small shoulder plane. The medium LV is very well thought out shoulder plane and works extremely well.
If I were to only be able to have one? You might be surprised to hear me say the medium sized LV shoulder plane! It's also got great ergonomics, although, for those that have an LN plane, try pulling towards you.
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