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Thread: Where to buy 0-1 stock?

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    Neil,

    In an attempt to save money you may waste some. Especially if you intend to make irons from this material. All 0-1 is not created equal. Only buy material that guarantees the carbon content. For instance Enco carries two different grades. The Starret 0-1 guarantees carbon content in a range I believe that is .89 to .99 percent carbon, whereas the cheaper variety states a standard make up of .79 to .89. If you get steel thats on the lower end of that range the irons will be less than satisfactory. I buy Presco 0-1 that claims a typical make up of 1.13 percent carbon. Now that's high carbon. I've had very god results with the irons made from this material.

    Ron

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    I'll have to look into that,Ron,since 01 is defined as having at least .90% carbon. I don't understand how they could be offering carbon at .79-.89 and still be calling it 01. You must have had experience with this,though.

    P.S. I have googled around,and Presco lists their 01 at .85-1.00% carbon. Exactly where are you seeing Presco at 1.13% ? Now,I am curious. If it starts at .85%,it could be that low,and could still be in the range of all other 01's. Only Starrett states flatly .90% carbon. I'm wondering if any of them can regulate their carbon very close???

    USA made in Enco says carbon= .80-.95%. Starrett says .90%. Presco says .85-1.00%.
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    George,

    I agree that it shouldn't be called 0-1 if it's lower than .90 percent carbon. Presco claims a typical analysis shows 1.13 of course that's not guaranteed but at least there's a good chance it's going to be on the high end. I'm also wondering how then can regulate the carbon content. It probably bears some research. I do think one needs to be wary of the import stuff.

    Ron

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    Found a nice Google book on heat treating while checking on the subject

    http://books.google.com/books?id=boK...0steel&f=false

    Here is a place to buy Presco @ about $10 less than ENCO for 1/4 x 2 x 36 on size 01
    http://www.flat-stock.com/~store/Mer...ory_Code=PMGFS

    Not sure what shipping cost...
    Last edited by Johnny Kleso; 12-21-2010 at 5:35 PM.

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    Ditto Enco or MSC, hard to beat the prices & service. Phone in the order before lunch and it arrives next day. Best variety of steels and alloys I am aware without great expense.
    David Woodruff

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  6. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Brese View Post
    ...I've had very god results with the irons made from this material.

    Ron
    I could use some "god results." Are you sure this isn't the same stuff Cosman was peddling here?

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    could use some "god results." Are you sure this isn't the same stuff Cosman was peddling here?
    Larry I think we could all use some "GOD" results but Cosman gets his results with A2 (grin)

    I'm just not an A2 kinda guy!!!

    Ron

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    I had a chance to check out MSC. Their site is a little unclear. Is all of their O1 stock from Starrett?

    Appreciate the insight on getting the material from different places. I didn't think about variations in carbon content.

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    Larry, that comment didn't go unappreciated

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    As far as I know,MSC sells both Starrett and English imported 01.

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    A Possibility

    http://www.amtektool.com/gfs.html
    I came across this page a few days ago. No experience with it.
    Best wishes,
    Metod

  12. #27
    Good prices at amtek, but it looks they don't tell you the shipping charges until after ordering.

    I checked with a somewhat local steel yard today, and they want $120 for a 18" piece of 3/16x3. Right now, I'm thinking that I'll be going with Enco.

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    Wow, Neil! That's about 4x what McMaster charges!!!
    Locally, we have Speedy Metals. Depending on current rates, sometimes they can be a lot cheaper than some of the other places. I like them because I can go and pick stuff up, it's real good for pieces that would be expensive to ship.
    Last edited by Mark Baldwin III; 12-22-2010 at 8:32 PM.
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    Ron Hock who sells blades and irons said his most reliable source is France. Perhaps a note to him on his website might get him to name a wholesaler of steel. Hock goes through quite a lot of it in a year.

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    Yeah maybe they have free shippping from France

    Last time I talked with Ron Hock he said the blade maker was very good...
    Ron was kind enough to send me a free blade and cap iron a few years ago..
    I still have not tried it

    That reminds me I need to do some planing and write a review on it
    Last edited by Johnny Kleso; 12-23-2010 at 12:32 AM.

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