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    mcnabb is no spring chicken either. i can't fathom why they aren't looking harder for QB prospects after being put through the favre roller coaster every year.

    edit: yes i can, why not lay it all out there. the vikings management is MIA and brad childress is incompetent.

    sending a threatening letter to a player with a non-football medical problem who is also in the process of burying his recently deceased grandmother, just like they did three years ago

    calling out adrian peterson for attending the parade his hometown organized to honor him, to the press

    all of which gives alot of weight to the rumors that it took players to get favre to play again, childress couldn't get him back on his own because the players don't respect him

    the only reason brad childress isn't fired already is brett favre. we all saw the inner turmoil when they lost home field while the saints struggled through injuries. they had one quality road win all year long (cleveland, lions, rams, green bay was the only win on the road against a playoff team), scheduling luck had as much to do with their record as quality play did. this year they have saints, jets, patriots, redskins, eagles on the road outside of the division. they don't win all 5 of those. they go 2-3 at best, probably more like 1-4 in those games. if they split with the packers and bears again, this is probably a 10/6 team.

    and that's why they have these conflicts with players over training camp. of course receivers don't want to show if brett favre isn't there. they aren't stupid, they know this is the end of the line for this current team, after this year favre is gone and the vikings are back to 8-8 or 9-7, which is the best brad childress can do. and they know that when that day comes brad childress will be throwing them under the bus for the team's failures, just like he's done before.

    i can sympathize, i watched a long string of bad coaches in new orleans before sean payton fell in our lap. but you don't see staints players speaking ill of sean payton to reporters in pre season. you do see that from vikings players talking about brad childress, and i think with good reason.
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    I agree with the fact that McNabb isn't a spring chicken either. The vikings team is getting older and older. Personally I think this is the year if they are going to do it. They have a lot of contracts that are up this year, and a bunch of other guys that are on the verge of retirement. 2 years from now will be rebuilding I think.

    I dont think there was any reason to go out of their way for a QB this year. They weren't going to go after Bradford and after that none of the other QB's impressed them. So there was no reason to draft one just to draft one. They did draft Webb who more than likely wont pan out. Tom Bradys dont come along very often. If they pick up McNabb next year and sign him to 3 years that gives them a couple of more years to find the next QB to take over.

    What bugs me the most is it has really been decades since the Vikings have had a franchise QB. Tommy Kramer is the last one I can remember and he had his problems. Daunte Culpepper was decent but the knee injury ended his career. Just once it would be nice to come along with an Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, Phillip Rivers, Joe Flaco, Matt Ryan, Eli Manning, Tom Brady. I leave out Peton Manning because he was expected to be elite right out of college. And I think he is an different league because he has turned out, was a #1 over all pick, and has been elite for 10 years.

    I never had a problem with the Favre's schrades this year. What would have bugged me is if he would have waited until a week before the opener. In case you don't know , one of the biggest games of the season for the purple and defending SB champs is the 1st one. And in my mind neither team can afford to loose that one. Because there is a good chance it will be a tie breaker game. If Favre would have retired then we would have made due with T-Jack. Even with T-Jack the vikes are an excellent team. But not a super bowl contender right off the bat. The vikings still would not have drafted a QB but may have went after McNabb. But is McNabb that much better than T-Jack? Favre is, but McNabb is only slightly better in my opinion.

    I quess we will see, maybe Favre will flop or get hurt and we will see T-Jack. But if our team stays healthy, I believe they are the best team in the NFL.

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    favre

    He does nothing but make all of us old farts feel jealous. Good luck to him.

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    talent wise, i don't disagree with the potential of the vikings being a top tier team. but talent isn't enough. if it were dallas wouldn't be such underachievers.

    i don't think it's any big mystery that the recent super bowl winners are giants, colts, steelers, patriots, saints, etc.

    these teams all have one thing going for them. great front office management, active football knowledgeable owner, or great head coach, or multiples of the above. the saints have two of the three in coaching staff and GM. that's what it took to get them over the hump, as much as the players.

    i just don't see that from the vikings, especially with a much more difficult schedule than they had a year ago.

    if i had to make a prediction right now, barring unforeseen major injuries, 10/6 or 9/7 and a first round exit to the last division winner, which is probably dallas.

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    Favre had his best season, statistically, last year. And despite that he remained true to his trait and threw an interception at the wrong time in the last game.

    The schedule this season is a whole other beast. And I seriously doubt Favre will match his numbers from last season. Can Peterson hold onto the ball and can Favre not throw interceptions at critical junctures of the game?

    Meanwhile, the Packers and Rodgers are looking to build on last seasons successes.

    This is the last hurrah for the vikings while the Packers are still on ascending.
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    I thought he would be back this year. He and the Vikings had a great year last year. Glad to see the season opener is the Saints and Vikings. Should be a great game.

    Several really good teams in the NFC this year. Saints, Vikings, Cowboys, Packers look really good to me. Giants and Falcons might be good. I think the 49ers are on the way back (Really like Coach Singletary).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Ryan View Post
    Neal,

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    Webb is a very raw athlete. Who knows, I predict McNabb on the purple team next year.
    Quite a few people on the Eagles MB expect that, too. If so, the 'skins gave up a 2nd round draft pick and conditional 3rd/4th for a one year rental.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Peterson View Post
    Favre had his best season, statistically, last year. And despite that he remained true to his trait and threw an interception at the wrong time in the last game.
    I wouldn't expect much different from McNabb. Last year the Eagles did not beat ONE playoff caliber team during the regular season, unless you want to include the Falcons who were without their starting quarterback and best running back. Donovan has great stats and does a great job of not turning the ball over but he spent 10 years in a very quarterback friendly system. Down by 5 points with 3 minutes left in the 4th quarter? Tom Brady or Joe Montana (or Brett Favre) he is not.

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    Quarterback? What's that? In Michigan we are still looking for a team!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neal Clayton View Post

    these teams all have one thing going for them. great front office management, active football knowledgeable owner, or great head coach, or multiples of the above. the saints have two of the three in coaching staff and GM. that's what it took to get them over the hump, as much as the players.

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    The vikings have a great from office, owner, and a very good head coach. The owner of the team is the real key. He has alowed the front office to do their thing but hasn't shyed away from writing out the big check when needed. Favre will get $20 million after we win the super bowl this season .I think Childress has gotten a bad rapp for the T-Jack disaster. Childress' record has increased by 2 games every year. Even with the tough schedual I wouldn't be surpised if it did again this year. 14-2 is not out of the question. But dont get me wrong it will be tough. A 10-6 season wouldn't suprise me either. I dont believe big bad Dallas will be so bad. Romo doesn't have what it takes to take a team through the play offs. And unless the O line can protect him better it wont matter. The cheese heads will be tough, but #4 wont loose to them, he wont let it happen, even if we need another Greg Lewis play. But we will see. I maybe wrong but any thing less than the last game of the season in Dallas will be a disapointment.

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    Who dat?

    As for last year, Not dem Vikings, Not dem Colts.

    As for this year, We'll see.

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    It's a long, long season. Fortunes can change from good to ill in a single play.

    In general, there are a number of teams that could make the SB, barring major injuries. There are some teams that are likely not to make the playoffs. There are one or two teams that will be pathetic.

    Unfortunately, I can only tell you who these teams are in late January of next year.
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    and now the vikings have no receivers. sidney rice didn't have surgery he needed after last season, because the vikings refused to pay their #1 receiver more than the 550k he was contracted for in his rookie season, and percy harvin is up in the air with the migraine issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phyllis Meyer View Post
    3rd times a charm? Great player, go home, make millions, get offered that commentary job, enjoy family and relax! #4...you are a great one!

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    Green Bay fans keep this up and when he goes into the hall of fame it won't be with their Jersey.

    Just saying.....

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