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    A basic tool set? Hand tool bug out bag?

    I am intrigued by the basic tool set post. What is a basic tool set?! Is it 10 tools, or 150 tools?

    On a lot of survivalist forums they speak of a "bug out bag." This is the backpack you grab when the apocalypse happens. Is there a "bug out tool chest?" IE only what you can carry on foot, somewhat comfortably? If so, what is it? Not that I would be loading jointers into the truck when the world ended, but it's interesting.

    Someone asked about a bench. Let's assume that is the first thing you would build. If you were leaving home, on foot, for a new residence that you would build all of the furniture for, what would you bring? Let's say there's a local sawyer nearby.

    That would be my basic tool set. The furniture would be stark and utilitarian, possibly unfinished. But you cant inlay and cut decorative chamfers on an end table that isn't there.

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    My problem is where to bug out to?

    I already live out in the hills. Maybe what I need in case of "bug out time" is a few miles worth of concertina or razor wire. Then we could put it all around the neighborhood to keep the city folk from bugging out up here.

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    That is what I was thinking: "Where are going to bug out out to?" A wood working school? The concertina wire is interesting, you would need a game port (for animals not Nintendo) so the city poeple could chase the animals in to you. Kind of like a rural drive though without the gas.

    Not so long ago a survialist meant someone that could live off the land. One of the oldest I ever met said all he needed was a knife. With that he could get everything else he needed.

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    I have always wanted at some point in my life to have the chance to disappear into the woods for a year or 2... or more, and build a cabin and just live.

    I think the most important tools would be a crosscut saw (for cutting trees) an axe, hand axe, maybe and adz, a good draw knife or two. A hammer or 2. spoke shave, probably my #5 and #7, a pair of panel saws, and sharpening supplies (that would have to include stones files and saw sets). a couple chisels would be handy as well. A pair of back saws would be a luxury until you had to carry them around the whole time. A shovel.

    I riving knife might come in handy. wedges, but you could get away with wooden ones I guess. I wonder if a frame saw for sawing logs into boards might come in handy, but I guess a blade could be carried or made, and a frame would be easy to make up and not worth carrying, so maybe a couple blade blanks would be nice but again not necessary.

    Most important 3 tools would be an axe, a shotgun, and a rifle.
    Edit, I always have some form of knife in my pocket so I don't even consider that part of the tool kit.
    the first thing I will be throwing away is the cell phone, then the bulky plastic remote for the car doors... that gets thrown away, the rest of the keys just get droped :P
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    I am willing to fight to the death for my Laguna bandsaw (and my lie nielsen planes)

    I think if there was an apocalyptic situation, my woodworking tools would be the least of my concerns. I have enough to carry for survival, at most I would take an axe, some chisels, and plane irons and a crosscut handsaw used for tree trimming. Honestly I would have a hard time carrying anything more than what I needed for survival, most of my carrying capacity would be burdened with firearms and ammunition. Without food, I don't care what I am sitting on. Furniture is a luxury of modern life, something we take for granted.

    As for a basic tool box to carry around, the idea intrigues me, I have no need for such a thing, but I suppose it depends on your purpose. The photo's of large cabinet maker's tool chests (from previous centuries) come to mind first. Those things were huge and I can't imagine them being mobile what so ever. I think largely depend completely at the "task at hand". My guess is the OP of that thread that is being referred to, was asking a "what are the most essential tools do I need" but again, completely dependent on the situation.

    How's that for not really answering anything!

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    ^^^
    weirdest thread ever

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    Whoa

    I never insinuated that in an actual bug out bag i would include woodworking equipment. I was trying to draw a parallel.

    "Ok, Remington 700?" check.

    "Gillie suit?" Check.

    "Fore Plane?" Check.

    I just wanted to know- what is the core set? What are the bare essentials you need to prepare, dimension, and join wood into a recognizable piece of furniture?

    Not trying to plane my way to survival in an apocalypse. Just curious about what we consider "irreplacable."

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    Bug out box

    When I was in an Infantry unit, the Supply section had a box. It was called a "pioneer tools" box. Basicly, just the hand tools a "pioneer/sapper" would need in the "field". No power tools were in the box, but just about every kind of hand tool for working wood was. I could go on-line and look it up, IF I can remember the M-##### number that was on it. It did have some hand saws, an axe, a hatchet w/ a "hammer head", a claw hammer, some screw drivers, a couple of chisels ( more for "timber framing") a tape meaure, and a few other items "buried" in there. It had an "inventory list" on the inside of the lid. Just about the size of a "foot locker" , I think.

  9. I'd find the closest unarmed fella that had one of these:

    http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item....re&dir=catalog

    Of course I'd have to dig deep and bring only the essentials....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Schwarzkopf View Post
    http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item....re&dir=catalog

    Of course I'd have to dig deep and bring only the essentials....
    How is that thing going to protect you from the hoards of Zombies?

    No in all seriousness, James I didn't actually think thats what you were referring to. It's a hard not to run with the idea though

    I have a shop full of stuff and sometimes don't feel like I have a "Basic set" of required tools. I would guess my focus would have to be the most useful of handtools, Saws, Chisels, combination square, a block plane, probably a smoothing plane. I honestly don't own a full respectable set of hand tools. I would want a router plane, a mallet, hammer, screwdriver, jack plane, miter box, etc... It would be pretty hard for me to fill up a toolbox of handtools at this point... but I am working on it as fast as I can

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    I have frightfully few true hand tools at the moment so I'd be hard pressed to have a choice to make.

    Besides, I'm fully embracing the fact that with my luck I'll be one of the first zombies...

    Along these lines, has anyone read the S.M. Stirling Emberverse series? The modern world is taken back to medieval times (technologically). VERY good. I went to school at OSU (Corvallis, OR) and part of the series starts in Corvallis. Kinda creepy.

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    I have to admit, I bought a water filter and it is ready to go with other camping gear. Not for Armageddon, but power outages and other problems where civilization breaks down. I was in that damn 2004 blackout with my wife miles away and stuck with no way to know she was okay and that was no fun at all. Do you want to be really depressed? Read "The Road."

    As for Zombies, don't you have to cut off their head to kill them? If so, perhaps a Lie Nielsen dovetail saw would be a good choice. Now I'm just waiting for someone to tell us the right rake and tpi for zombie necks. It is essentially a cross cut, right?

    I remember reading about a guy who went off to live in the woods and became perhaps the ultimate neanderthal and anti technology person around. I believe his brother finally turned him in! Stay with us guys. It's not all bad here! :-)

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    Let's look at real and even likely events. A storm, flood, earthquake, or hurricane comes through and does enough damage that the power will be down for a week. You need to be able to fix a window and secure a few things. Maybe you are fine, but a neighbor or your office needs to be dry or secure after roof or other damage. Professionals are either unequipped or busy. A tool set that is dry and able to work without power is not a foolish thing to have.

    Here is my answer.





    Having a dry, floating, waterproof container with a good general purpose woodworking set that comes out and becomes a convenient tool rack with everything you need easily reached, seen, and put up, seems to me to be a rather nice thing to have handy.

    Bob

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    Bob, enlighten us what ya have in thar! That's a well prepared and thought out kit there. Living here in hurricane land, such a set up is a good idea... as long as it doesn't blow away with the house or float away.

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    I suppose I shouldn't be putting any links up, but just in case you were feeling like a man...here's a guy that proves you wrong. (and no, its not porno! HA!)

    An awesome special I saw on PBS about a guy who said "screw it" and went into solitude:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYJKd0rkKss

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