OMGA 1P300 or 1L300 - looking for feedback

Looking for feedback from any users of OMGA 1P300 or 1L300.

I hear very good things about OMGA miter saws
Considering a 1P300, which along with 1L300 are their lowest cost miter saws.
Still very expensive, so would like to hear from anyone who has used this specific model. Is it top quality like other OMGA saws ?
1L300 is almost identical so would like to hear from users of that model as well.

thanks in advance.

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Steven,

I have looked at the specs on these 2 compared to the T 50 350, for example. The weights say a lot. 222 lbs compared to around 50 lbs for the 1P or 1L. Cast iron table/base and head of the T50/T53 compared to (I'm assuming) aluminum bits on the 1P / 1L. 1.75 hp, 12" blade and 3 1/8" cut depth vs 3 (+) hp, 14" blade, and 4 5/16". Crosscut widths are also less on the 12" blade. I'd be interested to hear if anyone has actually put one of each through the paces to see how much difference in build / cut quality we are talking about. I've always been under the impression that part of what makes the OMGA the precision beast that it is is the cast iron and mass.


Below is a copy and paste from the OMGA website on their current new saw lineup. DATA SHEET

	1P 300	T 53 370	T 50 350	1P 350 F	1L 300
Cross cut capacity 90 Deg.	5 1/2"	6 3/4"	6 3/4"	6 9/32"	5 7/8"
Cross cut capacity 45 Deg.	3 15/16"	4 3/4"	4 3/4"	4 1/2"	3 15/16"
Max. Depth of Cut	3 1/8"	4 5/16"	4 5/16"	4 11/16"	3 1/8"
Max. Depth of cut 45 Deg.	1 1/16"	2"	N /A	N /A	1 3/8"
Motor power	1.75	4	3	3	1.75
Max. Beveled Cross Cut	5 1/2"	6 3/4"	N /A	N/A	5 7/8"
Saw bore	30 mm	1"	1"	30 mm	30 mm
Saw blade diameter	12"	14"	14"	350 mm	12"
Arbor Speed RPM	3400	3200	3200	3400	3400
Dust Chute Diameter	60 mm	3 1/8"	3 1/8"	60 mm	60 mm
Table Size	29 1/2" x 6"	23 5/8" X 17 1/8"	23 5/8" X 17 1/8"	29 1/2" x 6"	19 11/16" x 6"
Shipping Weight Lbs.	51	255	222	115	47
Crated Dimensions	30 11/16" x 22" x 19"	28" X 28" X 33"	26" X 25" X 30"	38" x 25" x 21"	24"x 20" x 22 1/2"

The cast iron And the aluminum models are leagues apart. That said, I used one of the cast aluminum models for a few years and it was rock solid and always held accurate.

This model seems lighter then those, personally I would find either one of the heavier aluminum or cast iron models used.

Thanks for feedback so far. Here is some surprising information that just came my way: I had contacted http://www.normand.ca/en/ to get a price and delivery on 1P300. They called back today and said they have sold 5 of them and every one was returned due to issue with the motor. Takes 30 seconds to come up to speed, and same issue on 3-phase version. A few production customers just leave the saw running continuously to get around this problem, but they are not happy. Have not seen this problem on their other OMGA saws. The person I spoke to at Normand seemed like a straight talker, and did not try to sell me another saw, so I assume it is true. Sad.

My search continues for a miter saw that will cut as clean and accurate as a table saw with a good sled. Ideally with good dust collection. Ideally with a quiet induction motor.

We had a similar problem on our two T50-350's but not as bad. Even with new capacitors they took 6 or 8 seconds to come up to speed. The fix was to modify the switch for continuous run, which is more convenient anyway in my opinion for more than a couple of cuts. Maybe they should be supplied with a larger start capacitor. Other than that and marginal dust collection they are wonderful saws.

I run the Omga continuous, can’t see any reason to go back to starting a saw for each cut.

Mine probably takes 3-4 seconds to get to speed.

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Originally Posted by Brian Holcombe

I run the Omga continuous, can’t see any reason to go back to starting a saw for each cut.

Mine probably takes 3-4 seconds to get to speed.

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Good info. What model is your Omga saw ?

The OMGA Canada distributor, said the 1P300 / 1L300 were so slow to start up that he would not sell to me, and they will be removing these models from their website if allowed by Omga.

Have you looked at CTD saws?

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Originally Posted by Steven Woodward

Looking for feedback from any users of OMGA 1P300 or 1L300.

I hear very good things about OMGA miter saws
Considering a 1P300, which along with 1L300 are their lowest cost miter saws.
Still very expensive, so would like to hear from anyone who has used this specific model. Is it top quality like other OMGA saws ?
1L300 is almost identical so would like to hear from users of that model as well.

thanks in advance
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I have no experience with 1P or 1L series, my T50350 starts and get to speed just like any other mitre saw on the market. I have previously owned a T55300 and AL129(double mitre saw pneumatically activated). the T55300 took longer to start than the T50350.

bought the 350 second hand cant justify $5000+ on a mitre saw

I had not heard of CTD. Looks like some serious industrial saws.

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Originally Posted by Simon Dupay

Have you looked at CTD saws?

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I may have found the answer in the manual page 49:
Problem "The machine motor has difficulty starting up".
Cause: "Motor brake fan too narrow".
Solution "Make correct adjustment as described in paragraph “Adjusting the blade braking time” pag. 33"

The translation to English is poor, but the idea is pretty clear: There is a mechanical brake, which if not adjusted correctly, will place a load on the motor, making startup difficult. Induction motors don't like to start up under load.

Link to manual: https://www.omgainc.com/service-support?id_product=2082

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Originally Posted by Steven Woodward

Thanks for feedback so far. Here is some surprising information that just came my way: I had contacted http://www.normand.ca/en/ to get a price and delivery on 1P300. They called back today and said they have sold 5 of them and every one was returned due to issue with the motor. Takes 30 seconds to come up to speed, and same issue on 3-phase version. A few production customers just leave the saw running continuously to get around this problem, but they are not happy. Have not seen this problem on their other OMGA saws. The person I spoke to at Normand seemed like a straight talker, and did not try to sell me another saw, so I assume it is true. Sad.

My search continues for a miter saw that will cut as clean and accurate as a table saw with a good sled. Ideally with good dust collection. Ideally with a quiet induction motor.

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​Just got this info from OMGA USA, via email.


"A realistic start-up time for a single phase motor would be up to 8 seconds. Anything longer than that could indicate a bad capacitor or bad start/stop windings in the motor. A three phase motor will start immediately and reach full rpm almost instantly."