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  1. Interesting read. The turd in the Jacuzzi comment is true. I've never heard of a liberal or progressive doing something just to "own the cons". I recall back when Obama brought in new gas mileage laws and a bunch of red necks detuned their diesel pick up trucks so they would belch black smoke just to "own the libs" ignoring the fact that by doing so they were wasting their own money by reducing their mileage.
    I see both threads have been deleted now. I agree Keith is part of the problem but without him the forum wouldn't exist. As I said I'm not holding my breath waiting for him to do the right thing. Still enjoy the forum so I'm not going to "own the cons" by quitting the forum. I'll continue to contribute and post and push back when I disagree with how the forum is moderated, although it's not the moderators fault that some people can't debate important topics like climate change using facts.
    Have a great day.
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    I keep in touch with David Weaver, he was booted from SMC. The problem is Keith Outten, like many webmasters, sympathizes with clowns like Macleod.

    There aren't any counter examples of users with liberal POV deliberately tossing a turd into the jacuzzi.

    Were site operators serious, they would pay for moderation and issue meaningful discipline.

    See Audio Science review for a refreshing example.

    Like I said - it's not you, it's a naturally recurrent phenomenon. As a buttress to support my sanity, I have withdrawn from social media - particularly places like SMC that no longer offer much content.

    https://www.realclearscience.com/blo...stupidity.html
  3. Yeah, I've lost track of the number of threads here and another forum where I've debated with someone who makes a statement I believe is false and refuses or is unable to quote a source. My two rules are you can state anything as your opinion but if you state it as a fact you must back it up with a credible source and you don't attack your opponent in a debate you attack their ideas and the weapon you use is facts.
    Thanks.
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    Sisyphus, internet arguments and a shrug...

    Eventually, all Internet chatrooms tend this way - the conservatives rankle to site management about proof that they're wrong, again.

    It's not you. This is the natural arc of voluntary groups.
    Eventually only the truculent remain.
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