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Aaron Beaver
09-02-2008, 2:25 PM
I am wanting to purchase my first nail gun. I want it right now for nailing quarter round to my baseboard, BUT I think I would like to use it for woodworking projects when I can.

Since brad guns shoot from 5/8" to 2" brads I was thinking that it would be fine for doing the quarter round (even though finish nailer is probably better suited) and then I could use the shorter brads for wood projects.

Does this sound like it would work or would a 16ga finish nailer that shoots 1 1/4" as the smallest be the best route.

Do you guys use a nailer for wood projects, I never have since I don't own one but maybe I would not use it as much as I am thinking or would I use it more than I am thinking. Suggestions?

Prashun Patel
09-02-2008, 2:56 PM
IMHO, start with a brad nailer. You're right, it'll be good for light molding work. It'll actually be fine for anything but the heaviest of crowns.

A 16ga finish nailer is a waste of $$. It's not as delicate as a brad nailer and doesn't have the holding power required for anything more than molding. A 15ga is a much better investment.

Joe Vincent
09-02-2008, 3:30 PM
I think you'll like having a brad nailer. I got my Porter Cable brad nailer in a kit with their oilless pancake compressor. The nailer has been great. The compressor's capacity is okay for my purposes and easy to carry around but it's very loud -- even not pleasant when I'm wearing ear protection. If you don't think you'll use it much or if you can put your compressor outside when you use it, the loudness may not be an issue for you. If I were doing it over again, I'd strongly consider investing in a quieter compressor -- albeit more expensive. Also consider picking up a pin nailer for less than $20 from Harbor Freight. I've had excellent experience with mine for the small number of circumstances when I've used it. I've read others praise it as well.

Prashun Patel
09-02-2008, 3:46 PM
I'm with you on the quiet compressor.

Jim Becker
09-02-2008, 5:14 PM
The 16 gage gun is also a brad nailer, despite being called a "finish nailer" by most. It's only when you get to the 15 gage guns that you are shooting "real" nails.

That said, 16 gage was what my finish contractor used for nearly all the trim work in our addition with a little help with an 18 gage gun on the shoe moldings.

Aaron Beaver
09-02-2008, 5:24 PM
The 16 gage gun is also a brad nailer, despite being called a "finish nailer" by most. It's only when you get to the 15 gage guns that you are shooting "real" nails.

That said, 16 gage was what my finish contractor used for nearly all the trim work in our addition with a little help with an 18 gage gun on the shoe moldings.

Jim, what about woodworking, wouldn't the 16ga leave larger holes, not much I know, but when you don't want them to show. Brads come in smaller sizes which is what got me to leaning toward the 18 ga in case I work on small type stuff where 1 1/4" brad would be overkill. Just trying to get the best of both wolds gun I guess.

Jim Becker
09-02-2008, 5:48 PM
I was only explaining that the fasteners shot by the 18 gage and 16 gage guns are identical format except for size. Yes, the 16 gage gun will leave larger holes as the "tee" at the top of the brad is larger. Where this is a problem you can use the 18 gage gun as long as that's enough holding power. For smaller moldings, no problem. Larger might require a bigger fastener to do it right. And note that "long" fasteners in 18 gage are much more prone to following grain and causing blow-outs than heavier fasteners. Be careful where your "free hand" is during the work.

Craig T. Smith
09-02-2008, 7:24 PM
Aaron, I have 3 Harbor Freight brad nailers. I keep 2 filled with different length brads and 1 with staples. At $20 each I figure if they wear out I'll just chuck them. However I've used them alot for 5 years and they work great. Buy one you'll be hooked too. Happy Wooodworking, Craig

chris yount
09-02-2008, 9:10 PM
The suggestion of starting with the 18 ga then getting the 15 ga to accompany it is sound advice.I bought a 16 ga and never use it, because the holding power is similar to the 18 ga.You can do just about any trim work with these two guns.These and a cordless screwdriver are the handiest tools I have.
Chris

Pete Clifford
09-02-2008, 9:16 PM
Aaron, I started with the PC combo kit consisting of oil-less pancake compressor and 18 ga. brad nailer. As noted by JV, the compressor is loud but this kit "gets you in the game". I subsequently purchased a 15 ga PC nailer and a 23 ga King headless pinner.

For trim work around the house as well as light WW, 18 ga is probably the way to go. For example, in addition to installing baseboard and shoe moldings, I used my 18 ga nailer to nail shiplapped boards to the back of a bookcase that I built. I was going to do it the old-fashioned way with a hammer and nails, but the pneumatic nailer helped ensure that a nail started on an errant angle wouldn't blow out the top/bottom of the middle shelf.

Harley Reasons
09-02-2008, 10:18 PM
I am wanting to purchase my first nail gun. I want it right now for nailing quarter round to my baseboard, BUT I think I would like to use it for woodworking projects when I can.

Since brad guns shoot from 5/8" to 2" brads I was thinking that it would be fine for doing the quarter round (even though finish nailer is probably better suited) and then I could use the shorter brads for wood projects.

Does this sound like it would work or would a 16ga finish nailer that shoots 1 1/4" as the smallest be the best route.

Do you guys use a nailer for wood projects, I never have since I don't own one but maybe I would not use it as much as I am thinking or would I use it more than I am thinking. Suggestions?

Aaron,
PM me with you snail mail address and I'll send you a free combination 18 ga brad nailer and stapler. Was getting ready to give it to one of the charitable resale shops but your more than welcome to it. I believe it is a workforce brand. It will get you started anyway.

Jerry Nettrour
09-03-2008, 12:08 AM
I love my 18 gauge, it is great, paid a little more than needed to though. Bought a Bostich for $90 at HD years ago. I do mostly light cabinetry, dressers, some larger stuff and it has done great, I use wood glue so I figure the wood glue is the main source of holding power. It comes in great for around the house trim work also.

Just wanted to mention, my parents bought me a small husky compressor that came with a husky brad/staple gun. They got a day after thanksgiving deal last year and probably did not pay much. I never even use the husky gun but I use my bostich with the husky compressor, it is quite, sounds like a bee buzzing. I love it. I used to use my big craftsman compressor which is way too loud. I still use that compressor for spraying and I just hate the noise. The husky is quiet enough and small enough to lug around to customer's homes.

Anyway, have a great woodworking time.

Jerry

Harley Reasons
09-03-2008, 8:59 AM
At our HD BORG we just got in a small Husky outfit, it has a 18ga nailer, 18 ga stapler, coiled hose, blow nozzle, tire inflator and a mini 2 gal compressor. Haven't heard it run so can't speak to loudness. However, price is good $89.87. It is a special buy, so supplies will be limited.

Jim Becker
09-03-2008, 9:01 AM
The suggestion of starting with the 18 ga then getting the 15 ga to accompany it is sound advice.

I agree...and forgot to mention that earlier. That's my combination and the two do everything I need. And with the pinner in my arsenal, I can do "invisible" attachment of small moldings and even face frames where glue is involved for the actual holding power.

Rob Russell
09-03-2008, 9:21 AM
I have the Porter Cable BN200A 18 gauge brad nailer and the DA250B 15 gauge angled finish nailer. The brad nailer is definitely the one to use for attaching quarter round to your baseboard. The combination of the 2 guns is great. The BN200A will shoot from 3/4" to a 2" brad, so you could use it to attach light trim. The DA250B will shoot up to a 2 1/2" nail and there are times when you need the extra length, for example putting uo crown moulding where you need to get at an angle through the moulding, through sheetrock and into the wall's top plate.

I agree that a 16 guage finish nailer will be less useful than the combination of the smaller brad nailer and larger trim gun.

Greg Heppeard
09-03-2008, 9:32 AM
I run a cabinet shop and we use the 18ga more than anything. In the shop, the nail only has to hold the joint until the glue dries. When putting up trim, we use the 16ga because there is no glue involved. As Jim stated, the 18ga sometimes follows the grain in the wood, especially with harder woods like oak, hickory, and sometimes maple. We use a 23ga pinner to nail up raised panel doors, again because it only has to hold the joint until the glue dries. We mostly use the 1 1/4" nails in the 18ga, 1 3/4" (sometimes 2") in the 16ga and 1/2" in the 23ga. We also use a 1/4" narrow crown stapler for the backs of the cabinets and normally use 1/2" staples in it.

Gary Lange
09-03-2008, 9:57 AM
I have a Harbor Freight 18 Gauge Brad Nailer that works perfectly and I feel for the home shop was a good buy. I also have a Harbor Freight Stapler 1/2" and it also works like a champ. My finish Nailer was purchased from Grizzly and is a 16 Gauge gun and it also works like a champ. None of these units are real expensive but with a little care they work just fine. My brother has the Harbor Freight Framing gun and we did his basement framing with it with no problems. I would recommend them for the home shop in a heartbeat. I am also with Craig T. Smith in that for $20.00 you can throw it away and buy another if it breaks. However, if you oil it like they say before you use it you won't have any problems.

Fyrman Dave
09-03-2008, 3:33 PM
Aaron,
PM me with you snail mail address and I'll send you a free combination 18 ga brad nailer and stapler. Was getting ready to give it to one of the charitable resale shops but your more than welcome to it. I believe it is a workforce brand. It will get you started anyway.
Very nice offer!

Dan Alpern
03-03-2014, 2:31 PM
For my home garage shop work I don't have room for an air compressor. I recently purchased the Ryobi 18 gauge brad nailer and love it! It runs on battery power, and has a compressor built into it -they call it "airstrike". I got mine at the borg on sale - so shop around. Great solution for what I do at home!

Rich Engelhardt
03-03-2014, 4:02 PM
Interesting.....

Let us know in six or 12 months how that Ryobi is working out.