Joshua Dinerstein
07-24-2008, 7:02 PM
So I had a little success with the shaping of that toolrest and I fear it went to me head and I started thinking hey... I could make that tool I have been eyeballing for awhile. Darrell Feltmate's website of course makes took fabrication look so darn easy so.... I thought I would ask all of you here. Anyone made such a tool?
I had just figured that making a tool for a few dollars to try was bit better of an idea that purchasing an expensive one just to go... "Humm.... nope!" Like I did with the skew. ;)
I got on his website and read over his plans for making some new tools. Darrell has plans for hollowing tools, hook tools and an interesting looking tri-tip tool.
So why a detail gouge? Well I started watching a few of the new wood turning TV shows and both Tim Yoder of the WoodTurning Workshop and Dave Hout of the WoodTurning Techniques use a detail gouge. Which appears to be something like a spindle gouge but with the much more shallow flute and a fingernail grind.
I went looking online and found a few great pictures of the detail gouge and few others here: http://www.henrytaylortools.co.uk/parting.html
From what I can see it is just a round tool with just a small section removed from the very top edge forming a flute and then the fingernail grind. It looks quite easy in many ways so I got to thinking about it all and wanted to try to make one.
So the first question for the wizards of turning is on the steel for the tool. I know I know most of you/us work with wood but we do that work with steel tools so I wanted to ask. I had planned to hit enco and get some drill rod (model #409-0021 (http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRIT?PARTPG=INLMKD&PMPXNO=941031&PMAKA=409-0021)) and work on it and then harden and temper it.
The length of the drill rod is 3' so it would give me enough steel to make several attempts at this as well as play with different bevel angles on different tools at the same time etc... so that appeals. But in re-reading the tri-tip tool Darrell had posted about I saw that it was from a High Speed Steel (HSS) stock from enco.
So the first real question is that I was just wondering if you guys thought the tool steel of the drill rod would be good enough to make a turning tool out of? Will it hold an edge of properly hardened and tempered and if any you had any any experience with that kind of thing that you might like to pass on.
The second question is mostly about fabrication. I had planned to use a drill bit to make the flute by drilling down in and then had read a comment from Dave Hout about dressing a grinder wheel down to make it a sharp oval and using that to grind out a simple flute. This is part of where having that extra 2' of steel drill rod comes in handy! :) I could try things several times looking for a good technique. So the actual second question at long last, given your own experiences have you any suggestions on how I should go about making the flute and shaping things in general? Any advice general or otherwise?
Thanks,
Joshua
I had just figured that making a tool for a few dollars to try was bit better of an idea that purchasing an expensive one just to go... "Humm.... nope!" Like I did with the skew. ;)
I got on his website and read over his plans for making some new tools. Darrell has plans for hollowing tools, hook tools and an interesting looking tri-tip tool.
So why a detail gouge? Well I started watching a few of the new wood turning TV shows and both Tim Yoder of the WoodTurning Workshop and Dave Hout of the WoodTurning Techniques use a detail gouge. Which appears to be something like a spindle gouge but with the much more shallow flute and a fingernail grind.
I went looking online and found a few great pictures of the detail gouge and few others here: http://www.henrytaylortools.co.uk/parting.html
From what I can see it is just a round tool with just a small section removed from the very top edge forming a flute and then the fingernail grind. It looks quite easy in many ways so I got to thinking about it all and wanted to try to make one.
So the first question for the wizards of turning is on the steel for the tool. I know I know most of you/us work with wood but we do that work with steel tools so I wanted to ask. I had planned to hit enco and get some drill rod (model #409-0021 (http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRIT?PARTPG=INLMKD&PMPXNO=941031&PMAKA=409-0021)) and work on it and then harden and temper it.
The length of the drill rod is 3' so it would give me enough steel to make several attempts at this as well as play with different bevel angles on different tools at the same time etc... so that appeals. But in re-reading the tri-tip tool Darrell had posted about I saw that it was from a High Speed Steel (HSS) stock from enco.
So the first real question is that I was just wondering if you guys thought the tool steel of the drill rod would be good enough to make a turning tool out of? Will it hold an edge of properly hardened and tempered and if any you had any any experience with that kind of thing that you might like to pass on.
The second question is mostly about fabrication. I had planned to use a drill bit to make the flute by drilling down in and then had read a comment from Dave Hout about dressing a grinder wheel down to make it a sharp oval and using that to grind out a simple flute. This is part of where having that extra 2' of steel drill rod comes in handy! :) I could try things several times looking for a good technique. So the actual second question at long last, given your own experiences have you any suggestions on how I should go about making the flute and shaping things in general? Any advice general or otherwise?
Thanks,
Joshua