Very large router plane

[Dave Lehnert]

Found this large router plane at a shop in Shipshewana Ind. Never knew such a large router plane was available. it looks to have a 3/8" Cutter. Ulmia brand with the number 077 listed on the tag. I don't think it is all that old but not sure. Not sure what I will use it on but make a nice paper weight I guess. LOL!!!
Any info you can pass along? Paid $22

[Rob Luter]

Small world.............

We do some rust hunting in Shipshewana every now and again as it's close by. I almost bought the same plane in the same shop a few weeks ago. I held off because I'm really looking for a Stanley 71.

Ulmia is a German company (Literature Link: http://www.ulmia.de/English/Downloads/15.pdf) See at the bottom of the page.

It will make a good plane for cleaning Dados and such. I've heard them referred to as "Old Woman's Tooth" router planes.

[Dave Lehnert]

Small world.............

We do some rust hunting in Shipshewana every now and again as it's close by. I almost bought the same plane in the same shop a few weeks ago. I held off because I'm really looking for a Stanley 71.

Ulmia is a German company (Literature Link: http://www.ulmia.de/English/Downloads/15.pdf) See at the bottom of the page.

It will make a good plane for cleaning Dados and such. I've heard them referred to as "Old Woman's Tooth" router planes.
Small world indeed... Was it in the red antique building across the street from the flea market? Did they have the large carriage plane when you were there? It looked kinda like a large draw knife. That was kinda cool.

Thanks for the info. Great story on the tool.

[Derek Cohen]

Hi Dave

That is a current model I think. The ECE version is almost identical. Some prefer their router plane to be a woodie.

Traditionally, these are called OWTs - "Old Woman's Tooth" or "Old Hag's Tooth", presumably because the upright iron resembles a single tooth in an otherwise toothless mouth.

I made a mini version of one recently and I think I posted it here ...

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/Derek50/Tools%20that%20I%20have%20made/Router%20Plane/OWT4.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/Derek50/Tools%20that%20I%20have%20made/Router%20Plane/OWT5.jpg

Regards from Perth

Derek

[Rob Luter]

Small world indeed... Was it in the red antique building across the street from the flea market? Did they have the large carriage plane when you were there? It looked kinda like a large draw knife. That was kinda cool.

Thanks for the info. Great story on the tool.

Yes, that's the place. I don't recall the carriage plane but I'll be there on Wednesday of next week and take a look. A booth upstairs in the back had a MIllers Falls Cigar shave that I'll be taking a closer look at if it's still there.

[Frank Drew]

I believe the current Ulmia is a rebirth after the original company went bankrupt (or out of business in some other fashion).

In addition to very good quality workbenches and hand tools, they also made a line of serious woodworking machinery; I had one of their sliding table saws for many years. The current Ulmia is no longer in that line of business.

[Dave Lehnert]

Yes, that's the place. I don't recall the carriage plane but I'll be there on Wednesday of next week and take a look. A booth upstairs in the back had a MIllers Falls Cigar shave that I'll be taking a closer look at if it's still there.
I did not see the shave but I almost ran through the upstairs part as I had someone waiting on me out in the car. Let me know if you find anything good.

[Dave Lehnert]

Hi Dave

That is a current model I think. The ECE version is almost identical. Some prefer their router plane to be a woodie.

Traditionally, these are called OWTs - "Old Woman's Tooth" or "Old Hag's Tooth", presumably because the upright iron resembles a single tooth in an otherwise toothless mouth.

I made a mini version of one recently and I think I posted it here ...





Regards from Perth

Derek

Thanks for the message. Is that plane of your own design? I was going to build one similar that was in Popular Woodworking magazine. They used a thumb screw with a hole drilled to hold the bit. I like your design better. What size is the bolt?

[Derek Cohen]

Hi Dave

The OWT was based on the ECE (then modified). There is a tutorial on constructing it on my website:

http://www.inthewoodshop.com/ShopMadeTools/OldWoman%27sTooth.html

Regards from Perth

Derek