Request for Handplane Advice

[Rob Luter]

Greetings to all,

My name is Rob, and I'm a plane-o-holic. I've not been able to find a 12 step program, so I'm rolling with the punches.

Seriously though................

I'm contemplating an addition to the collection with a mind to add something useful. I currently have (2) #220, a 60 1/2, a #3, a #4, a #4 1/2, a #5, a #5C, a Sargent woodie jack, a #7, a #112, a coffin smoother, a german scrub, a german jack, a skewed rabbet, and a LV medium shoulder plane. All are highly tuned and perform well.


I could use something small for trimming tenon cheeks, ends of dovetails, and for truing up smaller stock. If it looked cool and shiny that would be OK too.:D

I'm thinking about either a LN Block Rabbet
http://www.lie-nielsen.com/images/60_5R_lg.jpg

or #2 Bench
http://www.lie-nielsen.com/images/2_lg.jpg

I wish there was a rabbet plane the size of the #2 and set up like the #10 1/4 as I like a knob and tote, but alas there's not.

Any comments from owners of either or both?

[Jim Koepke]

Greetings to all,

My name is Rob, and I'm a plane-o-holic. I've not been able to find a 12 step program, so I'm rolling with the punches.
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I could use something small for trimming tenon cheeks, ends of dovetails, and for truing up smaller stock. If it looked cool and shiny that would be OK too.:D
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Any comments from owners of either or both?

For trimming tenon cheeks, the block rabbet would be more useful.

For trimming small stock, the No. 2 is a very useful plane. It could be replaced by a good block plane for these jobs.

jim

[Johnny Kleso]

For Cheeks a No.140 is a good choice better than a No2 or Rabbit.
Also works well for end grain on dovetails..

http://www.lie-nielsen.com/images/140_lg.jpg

[Michael Faurot]

I could use something small for trimming tenon cheeks, ends of dovetails, and for truing up smaller stock.
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I'm thinking about either a LN Block Rabbet
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Any comments from owners of either or both?

I have the Lie-Nielsen 60-1/2R Rabbet Block Plane. It works well for making or cleaning up wide rabbets and tenons. It's also works great as a regular block plane and does well on end grain. I also like the hefty mass it has.

[Bob Smalser]

I could use something small for trimming tenon cheeks, ends of dovetails, and for truing up smaller stock. If it looked cool and shiny that would be OK too.:D

I'm thinking about either a LN Block Rabbet


http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL12/1104763/17020258/263582053.jpg

I tried the block rabbets and sold them. I prefer the added depth of a shoulder plane. They'll scrub deeper tenons and in use your hand is farther away from the work surface and doesn't obscure the work. I also found them needlessly heavy for the task.

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL12/1104763/5536778/70922238.jpg

[Ken Werner]

Rob,
the 60.5 is already very good at taking the ends off dovetails. The 60.5R won't do more there.

For truing tenons, you might consider a router plane. That can true a tenon very well, and for similar money to the 60.5R, will provide many more varied uses. Since you've already got the LV med shoulder.

On the other hand, if you're really a planeaholic, maybe you need them both, plus the 140. Oh, and a 6, and a 5.25, and a 5.5...and an 8....

Ken

[Jack Camillo]

I stopped short of getting the 140 or the rabbet block because I wondered about not having an adjustable mouth. Any opinions on that?

[Michael Faurot]

I stopped short of getting the 140 or the rabbet block because I wondered about not having an adjustable mouth. Any opinions on that?

The Lie-Nielsen 60-1/2R comes with a very tight mouth, and will take a fine shaving. I suspect the reason for not having an adjustable mouth is it would make the front of the plane too weak or flimsy. In use, I've found it works fine on cross grain and end-grain without it.

[Doug Shepard]

This wouldn't help you much for the tenon cheeks but the more I use this little Knight Pocket plane the more I like it.
http://www.knight-toolworks.com/wooden.htm
I picked it up used thru an SMC classified and tho it's not a low angle plane, it tackled purpleheart endgrain when building my bench better than either my LN Adj mouth LA or Std angle block planes.

[Rob Luter]

Thanks to all for the feedback. It's true I can accomplish the cheek and dovetail trimming with my current 60 1/2 and shoulder plane, but I'd like a bit more heft. Also, I've got pretty big mitts and would like something easier to hold. The 60 1/2 gets lost in my hand.

[Jim Koepke]

Thanks to all for the feedback. It's true I can accomplish the cheek and dovetail trimming with my current 60 1/2 and shoulder plane, but I'd like a bit more heft. Also, I've got pretty big mitts and would like something easier to hold. The 60 1/2 gets lost in my hand.

You may want to try a 65. They are a bit bigger than the 60-1/2.

jim