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Mike Gabbay
06-05-2008, 12:56 PM
Guys any suggestions on a framing nailer? I'm looking for a full round head stick nailer. Since I'm a weekend warrior it does not have to be a Rolls Royce but I don't want to cheap out either. I'm looking for ones that are not prone to jam, have enough power to get through pressure treated wood and laminated beams, and can get nails at the borgs.

Some that I've used in the past are: Porter Cable and Senco.

I have Porter Cable for my brad and finish nailers and they work fine.

NICK BARBOZA
06-05-2008, 1:02 PM
I use a senco framepro 651. its a clipped head nailer. I love it!

Porter cable is good. i have used a number of those. also bostich are nice too.

Nick

Ben Cadotte
06-05-2008, 1:35 PM
Before going back to school a long time ago, I had a Bostitch clipped head nailer.
Definately put it through the paces. Never a single problem with it.

Since I have bought my own house now. I have a full head framing nailer. It's the Harbor Freight one. I have not done alot with it. Just 4 walls inside the house. But it does use std nails sold at the borgs, 21 deg. As for brand name guns. I also have some Senco nailers, but none are framing though. But happy with them.

John Viola
06-05-2008, 1:36 PM
Guys any suggestions on a framing nailer? I'm looking for a full round head stick nailer. Since I'm a weekend warrior it does not have to be a Rolls Royce but I don't want to cheap out either. I'm looking for ones that are not prone to jam, have enough power to get through pressure treated wood and laminated beams, and can get nails at the borgs.

Some that I've used in the past are: Porter Cable and Senco.

I have Porter Cable for my brad and finish nailers and they work fine.

What kind of compressor will you be using to drive the framer? They obviously use a lot more air and smaller compressors (like the PC pancake) will cycle constantly and not keep up.

Just something to think about. If you're running a good compressor, then forget I said anything.

To answer your original question, I have and really like the Paslode cordless framer. It's built 2 sheds and a bathroom and worked great. Not having a hose is a really wonderful thing.

Mike Gabbay
06-05-2008, 1:48 PM
John - I have a 15 gallon PC compressor. It can easily handle a nailer.

Greg Cole
06-05-2008, 2:01 PM
Paslode FS 350 I think mine is.
I don't use it every day of the week, but it's seen a few thousand nails easily... never had a problem with it, not even a single jam.

Greg

Paul Dell'Anno
06-05-2008, 2:03 PM
I am also a weekend warrior and I just purchased a DeWalt full head nailer from Tools-Plus for $124. It is a refurbished unit and comes with a 1 year warranty. Used it with a porter cable pancake compressor and had no issues.

Brad Schmid
06-05-2008, 2:05 PM
I have a Paslode F-350S (2"-3 1/2" nails). It shoots an offset fullhead nail (RounDrive), plenty of power, no problem with jams so far. Nails are readily available at the borg, but I sure do wish they came in smaller quantities. I hate to buy a gazillion nail case/box of a specific size when I know I'll never use that many.

Brian Weick
06-05-2008, 2:23 PM
What I mean by that is , problems ,jambs,and just plain malfunctioning every other day~don't be penny wise and pound foolish ` Bostitch/Hitachi ~ I know they are higher than other brands out there but speaking from experience, I am 99% sure that when I use it , it is going to work flawlessly, the 1% left is because that usually has to do with me being absent minded, forgetting to open the line valve.
I have learned that you can get away with certain tools on the inexpensive mind set , and maybe get away with it,~ I think this is one of those tools you don't want to gamble with. :rolleyes:
Just My 2 cents,
Brian



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Prashun Patel
06-05-2008, 2:54 PM
My guess is that you have the Pancake compressor that came with the brad nailer (me too). Those things are too light for anything but the brad nailer; even my 15ga finish nailer cycles it too frequently for comfort.

You might consider getting a gas fired framing nailer. One of my contractors framed out our basement with it. The charge seemed to last a long time.

I think having a 'cordless' framing nailer is a great thing bkz it eliminates a messy and dangerous air pipe, it's instant, and you don't have to deal with the compressor scaring the bejesus out of yr loved ones.

Izzy Camire
06-05-2008, 2:57 PM
I just bought a reconditioned Bostitch F28WW from Tooling for $155. Other than a bit of surface rust you would think it was brand new. It works just like new too.

Bill Dunn jr
06-05-2008, 3:28 PM
Mike,

I have the Paslode cordless framer and two Senco SN-4's. The Paslode is a good all around gun. If I was only going to have one gun it would be the Paslode. More important than the gun are the nails. I try to use only Senco nails. I have framed many houses and decks over the years and the Senco nails have the best holding ability. Neither of these guns are full round head shooters but I have never seen the need for it.

Andy Livingston
06-05-2008, 3:42 PM
I have a porter cable and I am very happy with it. I shopped around a while and was tempted by more expensive tools. I am building a rather large addition to my house and have shot probably close to 1000 nails so far. I have not had any problems and it has taken a beating. I would buy it again in a second.
Good luck in your search!

Curt Harms
06-05-2008, 5:59 PM
I have a porter cable and I am very happy with it. I shopped around a while and was tempted by more expensive tools. I am building a rather large addition to my house and have shot probably close to 1000 nails so far. I have not had any problems and it has taken a beating. I would buy it again in a second.
Good luck in your search!

I found a P-C on Ebay near me for less than $100. It was dropped off for rebuilding and never picked up. It could use some paint but works well for me, plenty of power

Eric DeSilva
06-05-2008, 6:21 PM
+1 for the Paslode framing nailer.

Maybe I'm just a slow framer, but had mine attached to a PC pancake compressor driving 3.5" nails into pressure treated 4x4s and, while the compressor kicked on a fair bit, I wasn't standing around waiting for the pressure to build up. Granted, I see guys framing decks driving a couple nails a second, but my aim ain't that good.

Bill Arnold
06-05-2008, 6:24 PM
I have the PC framing nailer -- got it and about 6,000 various size nails for the same price on Amazon as the local borg sold the nailer for a couple of years ago. I'd buy it again without any question.

Mike Spanbauer
06-05-2008, 6:42 PM
Use a Senco 750xl myself. It's a beast and 15k nails have been shot through it without a single jam. One particularly sweet element is the number of lengths AND shank diameters that it can handle:


FramePro 750XL nailers drive 2" to 3 1⁄2" smooth shank nails
(Sencote® or plain); 2" to 3" ring-shank nails; 3" screw-shank and
clipped “D” head nails. Shank diameters include .113", .120",
.131" and .148"


Just some food for thought.

michael

Ian Roth
06-05-2008, 9:20 PM
I have the Bostitch N88RH-2MCN Industrial High-Powered Round Head Framing Nailer and Metal Connector. It works great. I have had it for about 4-5 years now and no problems with it jamming. I also like the Metal Connector feature. I don't need that a lot but it has come in handy the few times I've used it. I got it when I needed a Framing nailer and figured for about the same price why not get one that has a dual function.

Good luck with your search!

Matt Schell
06-05-2008, 10:07 PM
I am currently using a Bostich and it is a dependable workhorse. I have also used a Hitachi in the past that was also a bulletproof framing nailer. I believe they are the best in the business. Check with some everyday framers and see what they would recommend. I have a friend who is a great framer and he has only ever used a Hitachi. Check used and craigslist.

I just bought a $450.00 bostich MIII flooring nailer from home-depot's rental department for 200 bucks (an absolute steal) I know it is dangerous to but rental equipment but this nailer is absolutely perfect and works beautifully

Dan Lautner
06-05-2008, 10:37 PM
Get the Max SN883RH. This is the Festool of framing nailers. Compact, lightweight and very powerful. Max also makes a high pressure nailer that puts all the nailers to shame.

Dan

Jim Kountz
06-05-2008, 10:46 PM
Ive used them all and currently have three Bostitch, two Dewalts and a Hitachi. All framing nailers and we use them all almost every day. I can tell you this much from using all three of these guns, they are all workhorses and all perform really well, the deWalt is the cheapest in price and although I have only had them for about a year Im really impressed with them. What sold me on them is the weight, a full pound less than the other two models. When you use one of these things all day long that one pound of weight is a God send.
You can do what you want but for the money the deWalt would be a great buy at only $100 from the bay you cant beat it really. I also use nothing but small pancake compressors (lug a big one around a job site once or twice and you'll be convinced) and they do FINE. They dont cycle continuously like some have said and if they do its because of a leak. From nailing off floors and roofs to framing walls the smaller compressors will do fine, just get a good one, dont skimp on price here and you wont regret it.

Matt Ocel
06-05-2008, 11:46 PM
Hitachi- Hitachi- Hitachi-
Oh By the way did I mention Hitachi.

Al Lupone
06-06-2008, 12:27 AM
I have the Bostitch N88RH-2MCN Industrial High-Powered Round Head Framing Nailer and Metal Connector. It works great. I have had it for about 4-5 years now and no problems with it jamming. I also like the Metal Connector feature. I don't need that a lot but it has come in handy the few times I've used it. I got it when I needed a Framing nailer and figured for about the same price why not get one that has a dual function.

Good luck with your search!

I also have this one. Never a problem using it in home handyman mode. I bought it when Amazon had it on sale for $188. With Fathers Day coming up there might be deals at Toolking, CPOBosch(reconditioned) or Amazon.
Al

Dan Lautner
06-06-2008, 12:34 AM
The Max weighs just over 7 lbs and is much more compact and ergonomic than the old clunky Hitachi design. The Max has very little recoil as compared to the Hitachi. The Hitachi is a solid gun but its heavy , bulky and the recoil is the worst I have ever used.

Dan

Allan Epstein
06-06-2008, 2:52 AM
[quote=Brian Weick;867251]What I mean by that is , problems ,jambs,and just plain malfunctioning every other day~don't be penny wise and pound foolish ` Bostitch/Hitachi ~ I know they are higher than other brands out there but speaking from experience, I am 99% sure that when I use it , it is going to work flawlessly, the 1% left is because that usually has to do with me being absent minded, forgetting to open the line valve.
I have learned that you can get away with certain tools on the inexpensive mind set , and maybe get away with it,~ I think this is one of those tools you don't want to gamble with.
Just My 2 cents,
Brian


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Rich Engelhardt
06-06-2008, 6:21 AM
Hello,

I'm looking for ones that are not prone to jam, have enough power to get through pressure treated wood and laminated beams, and can get nails at the borgs.
Bostitch F28WW fits all the criteria and then some.
I'm 110% satisfied w/mine. No jams so far in > 5000 fasteners.
Power to fasten a treated 2x4 to concrete.

Lee Koepke
06-06-2008, 7:54 AM
I had a working Senco SN4 (?), used it for 10 yrs or so and worked great. Tried to rebuild it myself, changing out the o-rings ..hasnt been the same since :D

I used a PorterCable from my office and its 10 lbs lighter and worked GREAT on my deck / misc frraming i had to do last winter.

Gary Lee
06-06-2008, 9:05 AM
I've use and owned over the years Paslodes, Bostitch, Senco, Porter Cable and now currently use a Hitachi coil framer and the Impulse Paslode cordless with the fuel cells. I don't do near the framing I used to, the knees and back argue to much. The Bostitch and Porter Cable were the least reliable. Paslodes have always been excellent. Senco's (at least in my area) have very high repair costs. My Hitachi coil nailer I use the most now, has the most "punch" of any gun I've had. This takes full round head nails, which some municipalities are now requiring for code. The Paslode Impulse is very handy for quick or small jobs but does have more maintainence. It needs to be tore down and cleaned throroughly on a regular basis for reliable service. This will except the clipped head and RounNail, which has an offset head, but is considered full by building officials. I've also have heard that the Hitachi stick nailer has always been a mainstay for many framing crews.

Anthony Fields
06-06-2008, 12:30 PM
There was a big debate I read online quite awhile back (1 yr or so) when I was looking for a nailer. It was clipped head vs roundhead and how Zoning rules were going to be applied or argued anyways. The discussion was about shear strength for what it's worth. I'd go with the Dewalt or Porter. But, that Porter is a big heavy beast.


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Dennis Lopeman
06-06-2008, 4:24 PM
PASLODE - I think its the 350 - I've had mine for years in a need where I had no electricty - so no compressor.

Works awesome - no cords - just gass and the little battery! I've only had one issue where one of the batteries doesn't fit snug, so sometimes loses its connection on big hits...

Otherwise 5 stars!