Especially for Bill Wyko

[Christopher K. Hartley]

I finally got started on a segmented and have done my first seven, twelve segment rings of Poplar and Purple heart. I am learning a lot the hard way but Malcolm and Ray Allen's books have been very helpful. I was also helped a good bit by videos on the Woodteks site by Don Leman http://woodtreks.com/ The greatest amount of time so far has been building the tools I need.

Table saw sled
outfitted compound miter saw
Bowl press
Glue spreader
Work Station
I know it never happened without pics so here are a few just to make the pic police happy. Another year and I might even have a bowl.:eek::)

[Paul Engle]

Aw right Christopher. that's the easy part....:eek:. Looks like ya got the handle on it , can't wait to see the finsh!!! :D

[Bernie Weishapl]

Well Christopher looks like you jumped into segmenting. Looks like you got a good start. I did my first one. I bought the book on Ray Allen written by Dale Nish. Got some reading to do after doing the first one. Chris did you cut your pieces with the CMS or the tablesaw? I was wondering if it couldn't all be cut one the CMS? Can't wait to see yours finished.

[Bruce Pennell]

Christoper looks like you got a great start. I haven't tried one yet its on my list, just ordered Malcolms book today, and Lyles DVD on hollow forms. Guest I've seen to many Indian baskets and pots lately at the Indian Casino's out here. Been looking at all the details and decorations, love the shape and form. Been turning some mesquite in odd shapes lately do to the indian influance. I'm about to order Randy's Monster hollow form, saving a little extra so I can get both systems at once. Now after looking at your pictures I can't wait to read Malcolms book. Good Luck hope to see the finished product soon....Bruce

[Robert McGowen]

Looking like you are well on your way! I was wondering why you don't have most of the rings glued and turned though? Tell us what your plan is!

[Richard Madison]

Bernie,
Either saw can be used. I use sleds on the tablesaw, but am inclined to think that if you have a good, rigid CMS, it might be better. There must be a small but finite amount of clearance (read slop) in a TS sled or it will not slide (unless it's an expensive, high tech piece). With a CMS the piece can be firmly clamped in place. Just an opinion.

Example: Despite shop heating and A/C, the RH in the shop varies from 25% to 75% depending upon the season, weather, and frequency and duration of door opening. Have one TS sled (home made, of course) that is nearly perfect at 50% RH. Slides, but virtually zero slop. After lots of rain, 70-75% RH in the shop, it can be "installed" in the miter slots but will not slide. When weather is dry for a while, RH 25-35% in shop, the sled is quite free, with a little bit of angular "slop". At these times one feeds the sled with a bit of "english" one way or the other.

Probably way more than you wanted to know.

[Steve Schlumpf]

Chris - hope the finger is doing better! Looking forward to seeing the finished piece!

[Brian Brown]

Looks like you have all the tools, and are ready to go. You even painted your sled. Makes me feel inferior for leaving mine raw. Just one thought about the sled, I can't see from the picture if you put a ramp on the right side of the blade. I think you'll really apreciate the ramp. It doesn't have to be steep, but having it there will cause the segment to fall away from the blade. It will keep you from catching a segment in the face, or having it make a second contact winth the blade and ruining the edge.

It may seem silly, but I really like your pencil holder on the side. The pencil eraser is really handy for getting the segments away from the blade.

Look out Bill, Christopher is coming after you. Good luck on your seggy stuff. We're looking forward to seeing your work.

[Christopher K. Hartley]

Well Christopher looks like you jumped into segmenting. Looks like you got a good start. I did my first one. I bought the book on Ray Allen written by Dale Nish. Got some reading to do after doing the first one. Chris did you cut your pieces with the CMS or the tablesaw? I was wondering if it couldn't all be cut one the CMS? Can't wait to see yours finished.Bernie I did both to see which one I liked the best. The CMS works great but you have to build a hold-down for the segment or like Malcolm says, it will kick up on the return of the blade and that ruins the segment. I also found that I needed a hold-down strip for my stock feed, but that was the easy part(not pictured...if you want to see what I mean I can post the pic with it on.:)

[Christopher K. Hartley]

Looking like you are well on your way! I was wondering why you don't have most of the rings glued and turned though? Tell us what your plan is!OK Bobbie...one thing at a time...I have problems walking and chewing bubblegum at the same time.:D:D

[Brian Weick]

Hey Chris,how are you doing by the way, Looks like your going to have yourself a nice little set up , look forward to seeing your project when it's done being born on the beast!

Lookin Good! :)
Brian

[Christopher K. Hartley]

Bernie,
Either saw can be used. I use sleds on the tablesaw, but am inclined to think that if you have a good, rigid CMS, it might be better. There must be a small but finite amount of clearance (read slop) in a TS sled or it will not slide (unless it's an expensive, high tech piece). With a CMS the piece can be firmly clamped in place. Just an opinion.

Example: Despite shop heating and A/C, the RH in the shop varies from 25% to 75% depending upon the season, weather, and frequency and duration of door opening. Have one TS sled (home made, of course) that is nearly perfect at 50% RH. Slides, but virtually zero slop. After lots of rain, 70-75% RH in the shop, it can be "installed" in the miter slots but will not slide. When weather is dry for a while, RH 25-35% in shop, the sled is quite free, with a little bit of angular "slop". At these times one feeds the sled with a bit of "english" one way or the other.

Probably way more than you wanted to know.Richard, I don't know what you use for your rails but here in Houston with RH from 80% to 100% most of the time and no air in my shop, I have no problems with slop or slide. I used purpleheart for my rails and auto waxed the table and slots on the saw. I have focused on the Incra 1000 SE System http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?familyid=4385 which I hope to get this year if all works out.

[Christopher K. Hartley]

Thanks guys, the finger is doing fine Steve, thanks. Brian I looked at Malcolms sled with the wedge but could not figure it out. I may try another one with the wedge if I can get a clear picture in my head about it. It wasn't Malcolm's pics just my brain cloud. :)