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Gerold Griffin
05-07-2008, 7:50 PM
Been looking at getting a real good miter gauge to cut segments for turning and the better half told me to get one. Been looking at the Inca 1000Se and 3000Se. The Jessem Mite-R-Excel is also a possiblity. The problem I am having is no one in my area has carries these for a hands on look. Next best thing, you folks, you haven't steered me wrong yet. I know alot of you have the 1000Se but my concern is the vernier scale and being able to read it. I wear bifocals and well lets leave it at that. The 3000Se and Jessem have more stops but again I am not sure. I have talked with the Incra folks and they left me in a head spin. Does anyone have one and wish they had the other? :confused: or does yours do everything you ask and then some?
Thanks

J. Z. Guest
05-07-2008, 7:56 PM
I'd get the Incra that comes with the miter fence/backer thingy. It isn't that much more than the one without it but still much cheaper than Jessem. Kreg is another option, but it seems a bit overpriced for what it is.

Bob Genovesi
05-07-2008, 8:15 PM
I went with the JDS Accu-Miter.

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This miter gage is the best I've ever used. It is heavy and does take about 45 minutes or so to set up and tune to your saw. Once complete I don't think there's another miter gage on the market that compares.

While I did order the hold down clamp I didn't find it very useful so I deep six'd it shortly thereafter.

Gerold Griffin
05-07-2008, 8:22 PM
Bob, that looks like quite an outfit. Never seen it before and have to check this one out. Thanks

Jim Thiel
05-07-2008, 8:35 PM
There was a miter gauge poll taken a year or more back, and as I recall the 1000se was the preferred rig.

Seeing the picture of the JDS, it looks like a souped up kreg. The bodies look very similar.

Jim

Rob Will
05-07-2008, 8:40 PM
Osbourne EB-3

Mike Heidrick
05-07-2008, 8:45 PM
I own the JDS as well. I like the hold down personally. It weighs SIGNIFICANTLY more than the Kreg! It is great.

Dick Brown
05-07-2008, 8:45 PM
Have the Jessem. Not to impressed and find myself reaching for a sled. Does seem fairly accurate though.

Gerold Griffin
05-07-2008, 8:53 PM
Rob, How hard is it to hit the in between angle on that Osborne, say 10 degree's and then come back later and have to find it again? The lack of a protractor head on this is interesting, Is that a ruler on the black bar or degree's?
Thanks for the heads up Dick.

Peter Quinn
05-07-2008, 8:55 PM
I have the JDS, pretty sure its design was taken from a road grader (very heavy). Its accurate enough for me, might not be for some. It doesn't have any of those fussy "tunes to with in .005 seconds of a degree" features but it is a nice durable tool that performs within most wood working tolerances.

Lance Norris
05-07-2008, 9:22 PM
Incra 1000se. You dont need anything more expensive.

Keith Cope
05-07-2008, 9:27 PM
I have the Jessem, too. Like Dick, not that impressed. It is bang-on accurate, but probably no more accurate than the Incra or Kreg and a lot more $$. I was planning to buy the Incra (either model) but Woodcraft was out of stock on both and I needed something that day, so I picked up the Jessem instead. Also, if you want to use it to cut segments, you may be a little limited by the stops available on the Jessem. Can't speak to the others, though.

Doug Shepard
05-07-2008, 10:00 PM
I've had the JDS for maybe 10-15 years and have mixed feelings on it. It's certainly built like a tank. I dont find the holddown very useful. The times when you'd really want to use it is for short pieces and it doesn't have enough reach to hold things close to the blade. It's easy enough to grip longer work against that heavy fence so the holddown isnt really necessary there. It also has enough play in the head to make the common angle settings iffy. If you set it then check and adjust if necessary before locking it tight OK, but I dont trust it quite enough to set one of the detents and just start cutting. The flip stops wont move once you tighten them, but will deflect a bit from vectical. So setting flip stops to the scale isn't always exact. If you move the stops up to a board end after cutting to a knife/pencil line though, it wont move and duplicate cuts will be the same.

matt dumney
05-07-2008, 10:34 PM
incra or the osbourne.

Larry Prince
05-08-2008, 4:17 AM
My vote is also for the JDS. I've owned one for over 15 years now and it's never had a problem other than the one I caused by dropping it and breaking off the "shot pin" that locks it in position. A quick phone call to the company produced the required parts by return mail.

Once you get this thing aligned to your blade it will stay that way for years on end, and when you rotate it to the desired angle you get that angle each and every time.

I agree that the hold-down is a waste of money.

It's not a souped up Kreg. JDS was on the market long before Kreg was even a gleam in it's daddy's eye.

Because this sucker is big, and heavy, I'd opt for the shorter version (again). Every once in a while I need to make repeated cuts that are beyond the jigs capability but it's easy to fabricate a stop and clamp it to the back of the gauge's "face".

Guy Germaine
05-08-2008, 5:08 AM
1000SE here. I later added the sled, and love it. I wear bifocals too, and I don't have any trouble reading the scale.

Doug Shepard
05-08-2008, 5:45 AM
FWIW Woodpeckers has a sale on INcra's right now. Dont know how these prices compare to other places though.

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Lee Schierer
05-08-2008, 7:52 AM
I have the Kreg miter gauge and so far it has proven to be very accurate. Set up took only a few minutes.

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Fred Woodward
05-08-2008, 8:04 AM
The Osborne EB3 is $109 + shipping now on their website.

Joe Little
05-08-2008, 8:32 AM
Great question Gerold. I too have been struggling with which miter gauge to buy. I am trying to decide between the Incra 1000se and the Kreg. Anyone used both?

thanks

Gene E Miller
05-08-2008, 8:48 AM
Greetings & Salutations,

I searched around and decided on the EB3 from Osborne.

It only took a few minutes to have it ready to use and I find
that it is dead on for the presets such as 45's which is what
I have used it for along with a 30 degree a time or two.

As to the rarely used angles I do not know how that would
work out but the markings are bold and I think it would be
easy enough to repeat.

I like the fact that it is easily reversible to either side of
the blade along with the fact that the fence itself can be
adjusted to be as close to the blade as you want it.

The stop is simple to adjust and repeat cuts are right on.

Gene Miller :D

Ben Cadotte
05-08-2008, 9:49 AM
I have been looking for a while now. On the fence between Incra 1000SE, or the Osbourne EB-3. Right now leaning towards the EB-3 just due to its slightly lower pricing. I use a sled for 90 deg cuts. So my interest is soley for mitering cuts. I may build a sled for 45 deg cuts. Not sure if I have the time this summer or not.

Matt Meiser
05-08-2008, 10:12 AM
I have the 1000SE and love it. In fact, this is my second, as I was going to sell my table saw at one point and go to a guided circular saw system. I sold the miter gauge before I decided that was not the way to go, so I bought another.

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Brent Smith
05-08-2008, 10:36 AM
I went with the JDS Accu-Miter.

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This miter gage is the best I've ever used. It is heavy and does take about 45 minutes or so to set up and tune to your saw. Once complete I don't think there's another miter gage on the market that compares.

While I did order the hold down clamp I didn't find it very useful so I deep six'd it shortly thereafter.

Another vote here for the JDS, and again, without the hold down. I tried the Jessem and didn't find it any better than the JDS.

jason lambert
05-08-2008, 2:27 PM
I looked at the kreg and incra wound up with a 1000se although I have not used it much looks pretty good.

Tony Falotico
05-08-2008, 2:36 PM
I have the JDS Accu Miter and find it great, but it is heavy! The hold down was useless at first, but the I mounted the whole setup into the Incra Miter Express http://www.woodpeck.com/incramiterexpress.html and use it almost excusively. The hold down works great when it's on a sled!

Jim Thiel
05-08-2008, 4:26 PM
It's not a souped up Kreg. JDS was on the market long before Kreg was even a gleam in it's daddy's eye.


Sorry, I didn't mean to set anyone on edge here. How about I go with "the Kreg appears to be a watered down version of the jds."

I wassent hatin on your jig, man.;)

Jim

Paul Johnstone
05-08-2008, 4:26 PM
I have the JDS as well. I like it a lot.

Ironically, I like the holddown clamp because I used the miter guage to trim down panels for doors, drawers, etc.

Because that is my main application, I eventually upgraded to the Jessem Miter Slide. Which is considerably more expensive, but I wish I had done it long ago.

You might want to consider avoiding spending 100-150 on a premium miter guage and going straight to the Miter-Slide.. It's truly awesome. Again, I kick myself for not buying one as soon as they came out..

Eric Gustafson
05-08-2008, 4:59 PM
Based on your stated use, segmented turning, I recommend the 1000se with the sled. PM my BIL, Bill Wyko. Bill tried a lot of different methods and found that the 1000se allowed him to cut segments to a tenth degree accuracy by using a vernier adjustment. You could as easliy double that resolution by moving the vernier halfway between graduations (half of a tenth degree) or quaduple it by judging a one quarter of a graduation. Bill uses it like this, cuts his segments, and glues them together with no addition sanding.

Chris Padilla
05-08-2008, 5:04 PM
Incra M5k sled is in my shop but I must admit I have no expeience with any of the others mentioned here. The indexing stops make it dumb proof...which I really, really, REALLY need! :)

Eric Larsen
05-08-2008, 7:37 PM
I'm very happy with my Osborne EB-3. While nowhere near as fancy as anything Incra makes, I can set up a cut for any angle in less time than it took me to type this sentence.

Eric Larsen
05-08-2008, 7:51 PM
Rob, How hard is it to hit the in between angle on that Osborne, say 10 degree's and then come back later and have to find it again? The lack of a protractor head on this is interesting, Is that a ruler on the black bar or degree's?
Thanks for the heads up Dick.

If it's a common angle, there are detents for finding it again quickly. 10 degrees wouldn't be much of a problem because there's a line for it on the scale. A quirky angle like 27.4 would be more difficult, but you can pencil in where you need to set the jig and return to it repeatedly until you erase the line.