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Jeff Wright
05-01-2008, 1:14 PM
My new 3520B lathe arrived day before yesterday. It was well-packed and no signs of damage to the container. It arrived on a pallet covered by a very rigid and thick cardboard box. Everything was thoughfully packed and protected by secondary boxes and styrofoam wedges. Powermatic together with Amazon did their homework here. I was able to assemble it myself with the exception of mounting the head stock back onto the ways. It took the help of my husky neighbor (Being 30 years younger didn't hurt either!). As can be seen in the accompanying photo, I made a wooden support to hold the head stock prior to aligning and sliding it onto the ways. We lifted the head stock up off its cradle on the floor onto the fabricated support, got our second wind, and gently slid it onto the lathe stand/base/ways. I decided to build one of the three shelves illustrated in the owner's manual. I used 3/4 inch dowels instead of the 5/8 inch ones suggested. The alignment of the head and tail stocks was spot on.

Now to decide which cutter tools to get. Any suggestions on brand, steel, and which specific tools to get? Are Sorby a decent brand? Any that are a superior value?

Tony De Masi
05-01-2008, 1:36 PM
Congrats Jeff and welcome to the Mustard Club. As for the tools to get, so much depends on what you are planning to turn. Also, keep in mind that if you ask 50 turners a question like that you will certainly get 100 different answers.

Tony

Frank Drew
05-01-2008, 4:20 PM
I'm jealous, Jeff.

Sorby is fine, as is Henry Taylor or really anything in high speed steel carried by Craft Supplies or Packard. If you really get into it you'll no doubt find some the specialist suppliers/toolmakers and get to learn all the different steels used. Don't go hog wild at first until you get a sense of the kind of turning you'll be most interested in doing.

A half dozen tools total can get you started with both spindle and face plate turning. Those, and a decent grinder.

Bill Wyko
05-01-2008, 5:45 PM
Nice Stealth gloat. I, myself, like Crown Pro PM turning tools. The Powder Metal they use stays sharp about 5 times longer than HSS. My favorite tool is the David Elsworth grind. You can use it sideways or straight on. I look forward to seeing some work come off that bad boy. Time to getter dirty now. Congradulations on your beautiful lathe.:)

Bill Wyko
05-01-2008, 5:48 PM
An important note on turning tools is to use a sharpie on the surface to be sharpened in order to grind to the origonal shape. Sharp tools are essential in turning. I personally prefer a wet sharpener. It allows me to take a small amount off at a time. It's much harder to put it back after you've ground it off:D.Have you done turning before? I thought I rembered some turnings from you in the past.

Bernie Weishapl
05-01-2008, 5:56 PM
Congrats Jeff. Now it is time to turn.:D

Steve Schlumpf
05-01-2008, 7:13 PM
Congrats on your new lathe Jeff! Looking forward to seeing what you turn!

Reed Gray
05-01-2008, 7:26 PM
For turning tools, I suggest the ones from Doug Thompson. His are the best I have used, keep the best edge the longest, and are well priced. You do have to make your own handles, but that is better as far as I am concerned. I do wish he made a more heavy duty scraper though.
Robust hippy

Dennis Peacock
05-01-2008, 7:30 PM
Congrats Jeff on the new Mustard.!!! Welcome to Club Mustard.....now....get out there and dirty up the shop around that new lathe. :D

Gordon Seto
05-01-2008, 7:41 PM
Congrats on the new lathe.
I think the best turning tools both in quality and value are the Thompson Tools. The new issue of Woodturning Design has a very favorable review. So was in the UK Woodturning magazine.
http://www.thompsonlathetools.com/reviews.asp
A lot of the pros are switching to them. Doug Thompson, the maker of the tools, is a member of our Clubs. He is a cowboy hat turner. He is going to do a demo for our Club this Saturday. He experiments with flute design till he got the performance he wanted. The A-11 steel and cryogenic heat treatment made the tools lasting several times over regular M2 HSS steel. If you don't like it, he will buy it back.

I have no financial tie to his tool. We belong to the same Club, no discount, no kickback, except we don't pay shipping.

Jeff Wright
05-01-2008, 9:43 PM
Congrats on the new lathe.
I think the best turning tools both in quality and value are the Thompson Tools. The new issue of Woodturning Design has a very favorable review. So was in the UK Woodturning magazine.
http://www.thompsonlathetools.com/reviews.asp
A lot of the pros are switching to them. .

Gordon, I can't get David's website to work. Could be my system, but suspect not. I'll keep trying.

Gordon Seto
05-01-2008, 10:36 PM
Gordon, I can't get David's website to work. Could be my system, but suspect not. I'll keep trying.

Jeff,

I think you meant Doug. Doug Thompson, he is also a member here.

Try this link:
I think you will find information here useful.

Thompson Lathe Tools-FAQ (http://www.thompsonlathetools.com/faq.asp)

Fred Conte
05-02-2008, 6:22 AM
Congrats Jeff on your new Mustard, have fun and enjoy!

Jim Becker
05-02-2008, 9:15 AM
Congratulations, Jeff!

Glenn Hodges
05-02-2008, 4:18 PM
You will not be sorry if you get Doug Thompson's. Get a 1/2 or 5'8 gouge, skew, parting tool, and a roughing gouge. I use a 5/8 most of the time, and I like the big heavy skew. If you are ever in S GA come by my house, I have buckets of gouges I don't use. I will sell them for about 1/2 price or less because I use Doug's or Glacier's all the time now.

Jeff Wright
05-02-2008, 5:12 PM
You will not be sorry if you get Doug Thompson's. Get a 1/2 or 5'8 gouge, skew, parting tool, and a roughing gouge. I use a 5/8 most of the time, and I like the big heavy skew. If you are ever in S GA come by my house, I have buckets of gouges I don't use. I will sell them for about 1/2 price or less because I use Doug's or Glacier's all the time now.

Thanks for the invite Glenn. I'm hearing some good things about the Thompson tools. Did you make you handles, buy Kelton's, or ????

Gordon Seto
05-02-2008, 5:42 PM
Jeff,

I personally use Kelton and Oneway handles. I had those when they were the only choices. I like the metal handles because I can store the gouge inside the handle when I take them to Club function and classes. I can also have better control in grinding without the handle.

Now there are some good choices.
See this reply:
http://70.169.135.35/showthread.php?t=83175

Alan Tolchinsky
05-02-2008, 6:38 PM
Jeff, Is that why the land here in Sarasota, Fl. is tilting? All that cast iron is definitely unbalancing the state. :) But seriously, congrats on that fantastic lathe. I think you're going to love that. Alan (between Fl. and NC.)

Jeff Wright
05-02-2008, 6:51 PM
Jeff, Is that why the land here in Sarasota, Fl. is tilting? All that cast iron is definitely unbalancing the state. :) But seriously, congrats on that fantastic lathe. I think you're going to love that. Alan (between Fl. and NC.)

You're quite right . . . my house used to be 13 feet above sea level. Now, with the lathe purchase, it's 11' 4". :eek:

Jeff Wright
05-02-2008, 6:53 PM
. . . . Have you done turning before? I thought I rembered some turnings from you in the past.

No Bill, other than in school shop 200 years ago, I've never turned. So now I'm going to try to make up for lost time. :)

George Troy
05-02-2008, 10:37 PM
You're quite right . . . my house used to be 13 feet above sea level. Now, with the lathe purchase, it's 11' 4". :eek:

I have my PM pulled back from the wall enough to clean behind it. If you use long handle gouges for turning on the end ;you may need more space for that reason. For Tools Doug Thompson with Oneway or Kelton handles. Suggest only High Speed tools of the highest quality, not from China.

Scott Hubl
05-03-2008, 6:09 AM
CONGRATS Jeff!:D

You picked a Great lathe !

Welcome to the ~GOLD~ world.:cool:

Your gonna L O V E it.

I am a Robert Sorby fan myself. Very good tools.

Don Eddard
05-03-2008, 6:27 AM
Congrats on the Mustard. Thompson gouges in Monster handles make a fine combination to go with it. For the Thompson skews, you can roll your own handle.

Dennis Puskar
05-03-2008, 10:22 PM
Congradulations Jeff. Where is the saw dust ?

Dennis