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Robin Cruz
04-29-2008, 2:51 PM
I was looking for a carbide fluted ball-mill or die grinder run from a high speed rotary pnuematic device for wood removal and sculpting.
Ive seen David Marks use them on his TV show but Googling has not gotten me anywhere.

Any ideas what this setup is and where to buy it? I have a compressor but need the high speed rotary device and of course the grinders.

Any thoughts would be humbly appreciated.
thank you

Josiah Bartlett
04-29-2008, 3:03 PM
From David's site:
http://www.djmarks.com/stories/faq/where_can_i_get_the_carbide_ball_mill_you_use_4669 0.asp
(http://www.djmarks.com/stories/faq/where_can_i_get_the_carbide_ball_mill_you_use_4669 0.asp)
Where can I get the Carbide Ball Mill you use? In response to your question regarding the ball mill, I use a 1" diameter carbide ball mill with a 1/4" shank available through one of these sources:

Santa Rosa Tool
Santa Rosa, CA.
(707) 545-6480.

Sev-Cal Tool Inc.
3231 South Halladay
Santa Ana, CA 92705
(714) 549-2211

Fullerton Tool Co.
121 Perry St.
Saginaw, Michigan 48602


You can get the die grinder just about anywhere, either right angle or straight for $20 or so. I like the ones with a plastic or rubberized coating on the outside. My old metal Cambell Hausfield die grinder works great but I have to wear gloves when using it or my hand freezes after a while- air tools get cold from use because of the expansion of the air passing through them.

Kyle Kraft
04-29-2008, 3:05 PM
Most industrial supply houses like McMaster-Carr, Alro, MSC, et al carry carbide burs with various amounts of flutes suitable for WWing.

David DeCristoforo
04-29-2008, 3:59 PM
"...Googling has not gotten me anywhere..."

The reason being that, technically what you are looking for is not called a "ball mill". If you were to "google" for "carbide burr" or "grinding burr" or something like that, you would find some. However since the best sources have already peen provided, it's kind of a "moot" point.

Cliff Rohrabacher
04-29-2008, 4:08 PM
response to your question regarding the ball mill, I use a 1" diameter carbide ball mill with a 1/4" shank available through one of these sources:

ONE INCH~!!!!!???~~??? Ball Mill?
That's a tad huge for hand a held die grinder isn't it?


Is he maybe misusing the expression "ball mill" and intending to say "burr"?
In my universe, a ball mill would be a fluted end mill with a ball end usually with two, three, or four flutes. A one inch milling cutter would have a lot of grab and would not be come on a 1/4" inch shaft.

Still a one inch burr is big. You'd have to hang on for dear life to that sucker.

Robin Cruz
04-29-2008, 6:39 PM
thank you. I called the Sev-Cal and Santa Rosa Tool and they are wholesalers and wont sell to an individual. They had some ball mills in stock, fluted and carbide (sounds like the same one Davide Marks uses) in stock but couldn't tell me who would have them at retail. Sev-Cal said it was a part number 32B8, CM series, Carbide Mill. He said the mfr was Sev-Cal but I doubt that. No doubt an import they put their name on as does many others. Ill keep looking. Thanks again

.

From David's site:
http://www.djmarks.com/stories/faq/where_can_i_get_the_carbide_ball_mill_you_use_4669 0.asp
(http://www.djmarks.com/stories/faq/where_can_i_get_the_carbide_ball_mill_you_use_4669 0.asp)
Where can I get the Carbide Ball Mill you use? In response to your question regarding the ball mill, I use a 1" diameter carbide ball mill with a 1/4" shank available through one of these sources:

Santa Rosa Tool
Santa Rosa, CA.
(707) 545-6480.

Sev-Cal Tool Inc.
3231 South Halladay
Santa Ana, CA 92705
(714) 549-2211

Fullerton Tool Co.
121 Perry St.
Saginaw, Michigan 48602


You can get the die grinder just about anywhere, either right angle or straight for $20 or so. I like the ones with a plastic or rubberized coating on the outside. My old metal Cambell Hausfield die grinder works great but I have to wear gloves when using it or my hand freezes after a while- air tools get cold from use because of the expansion of the air passing through them.

Cliff Rohrabacher
04-29-2008, 6:49 PM
http://tinyurl.com/4rvngb - - They have a 1" ball burr.

http://tinyurl.com/4mg5mb - - them too

http://tinyurl.com/3m7bar - -other burrs

http://tinyurl.com/46fafu - - - more still

Johnny Kleso
04-29-2008, 6:52 PM
I think you want a Burr Ball and WoodCraft sells many types, for me using air power on wood is way to noisy..

I would opt to get an electric Die Grinder from HF for $29

Just checked and they are $34 not on sale :(


http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=44141

Robin Cruz
04-29-2008, 7:21 PM
thats a good point. My air compressor it probably not up to it anyway. I see Woodcraft has the burr balls but I when I saw the show with Marks, he mentioned the use of a fluted version.
I think you want a Burr Ball and WoodCraft sells many types, for me using air power on wood is way to noisy..

I would opt to get an electric Die Grinder from HF for $29

Just checked and they are $34 not on sale :(


http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=44141

Rusty Elam
04-29-2008, 9:38 PM
If you do use the 1" burr on youor air tool make sure you buy one of the small screw in regulators....I would not want to try to hold on to a 4" long grinder at 20,000 rpm with a 1" carbide burr.

Robin Cruz
05-01-2008, 12:03 AM
Do the electrics have a speed adjust?

If you do use the 1" burr on youor air tool make sure you buy one of the small screw in regulators....I would not want to try to hold on to a 4" long grinder at 20,000 rpm with a 1" carbide burr.