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Derek Larson
04-11-2008, 1:09 PM
Good Afternoon, I am going to be upgrading my TS soon and I would like to spend around $700 give or take. So if you had $700 to spend on a TS what would you get try to keep in mind shipping if it has to be shipped. I would like a contractor saw (cabinet saws I believe are way out of this range) with a decent fence.
Thanx

Homer Faucett
04-11-2008, 1:27 PM
In that price range, I would look for a used Unisaw, PM 66, or Grizzly 1023 cabinet saw with a good fence (probably a bies-style fence), or perhaps a used or on sale Craftsman Zip Code saw, or the Steel City clone.

In the contractor saw arena, lots of people are happy with their Rigid contractor saw, and I had good luck with the Delta and the T2 fence from Lowes ( http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=237665-32764-36-979&lpage=none ). Regardless, make sure you buy a good blade. If you buy a contractor saw, I recommend getting a link belt, as it will greatly reduce vibration.

Mike Gager
04-11-2008, 1:36 PM
ive been eyeing the Ridgid 3660 (formerly labeled 3650) lots of good reviews about it on the net. its around $549 at home depot and ive seen people say they have gotten it as low as 380 on sale

http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10051&langId=-1&catalogId=10053&productId=100007962&N=10000003+90167+500744

Brian W Evans
04-11-2008, 1:41 PM
Derek,

I have a General 50-185 contractor's saw. It got a lot of press a few years ago (won "Best Overall" I think in FWW's tool guide). It has a very good fence and plenty of power (2hp). Mine had negligible runout on the arbor and any other tune-up adjustments I've had to make are very easy. Although it is a contractor's saw, the dust collection is pretty good if you've got a good DC unit.

I think a link belt would be a good idea but I found that the one I bought kept slipping out of the pulleys. I'm not sure if there are different widths to link belts, but I know you can buy replacement pulleys (woodcraft? lee valley?) that are sold with the link belts. For me, vibration hasn't been a big issue, although there is quite a bit on start-up/shut-down.

I also bought the General mobile base for it, which I like quite a bit.

Not sure what this saw costs now, but I got mine for $650 a few years ago.

Good luck.

Eric DeSilva
04-11-2008, 1:41 PM
I was in the same boat six months back, and found a used Delta Platinum Edition Unisaw with the 50" Bies fence on craigslist. I'm a big advocate of recycling other people's heavy iron. ;)

scott spencer
04-11-2008, 1:47 PM
Hi Derek - A used 3hp cabinet saw is the most saw for the money if you've got 220v. If not, a hybrid saw offers many of the advantages of a cabinet saw but has the duty rating, power, and price range closer to a contractor saw. They're essentially an evolution of the contractor saw but move the motor inside the cabinet.

The Jet Proshop is an excellent example....the 708480k (http://www.amazon.com/Jet-708480K-JPS-30-ProShop-Tablesaw/dp/B000WO1HU6/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/102-1117060-2253709?ie=UTF8&s=hi&qid=1207935593&sr=8-1) is on sale from Amazon for $630 shipped. It's also available with cast iron wings as the 708482k (http://www.newwoodworker.com/reviews/jetproshopsawrvu.html). The Craftsman 22114 (http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00922114000P?keyword=22114) and 22124 (http://www.epinions.com/review/Craftsman_Professional_10_in_Table_Saw_22124/content_184778395268) are also excellent hybrids that offer cabinet mounted trunnions for easy alignment...the 22124 has a commercial Biesemeyer fence. It tends to be more expensive than $700 but does venture into that range on sale...it's more frequently on sale for ~ $850, but the 22114 is in range and goes on sale occasionally below $600. Sometimes the Delta 36-715 dips into range too.

Derek Larson
04-11-2008, 1:51 PM
I like the used and hybrid suggestions I will have to consider these thank you

Ben Cadotte
04-11-2008, 2:00 PM
Do you plan on this being your permanent saw or a stepping stone? If its going to be a stepping stone I would suggest a used contractors saw (unless you find a good deal on a new Ridgid saw mentioned above). If you are looking for something more permanent. I say wait until you can come up with just a little bit more. Grizzly's hybrid is $871 shipped.

You might have a little trouble finding used hybrids close to home since they have not been around that long.

Lori Kleinberg
04-11-2008, 2:40 PM
Hi Derek, I just started using my new Jet ProShop with the cast wings. It is great compared to my last saw, a rigid 2400. I
don't have alot of experience but I think I am in love with this saw (don't tell my hubby;)). I really like the cast wings.
They just make the saw feel so solid.

matt dumney
04-11-2008, 6:13 PM
Grizzly would be my choice...don't buy used if you can buy new.

Rob Will
04-11-2008, 6:23 PM
I would buy a used USA made cabinet saw.
Depending on what you find and the price, you might be able to upgrade the fence yourself.

Rob

Phillip downs
04-11-2008, 8:43 PM
I am in the process of rebuilding a Delta Unisaw, 1955 vintage. If you are mechanically inclined it will be easy. The trick is to find a good saw that needs some TLC with the proper motor phase and voltage for your shop for starters.
I would not go older than my saw. You can search Craigslist and a few other sites as well, I go to the tool section and type in (table saw).
There is a site you can look into for parts and rebuild info.
www.Thesawcenter.com
and also www.owwm.com for equipment info and the like.

When I'm done I should have about 700 +/- in mine but I already have a B fence for it.

There are some deals to be had in good used equipment due to the economy.

I sure like the steadyness of a good cabinet saw.

Phil

allan cripe
04-11-2008, 9:33 PM
For the $$, you simply cannot beat the features of the ridgid 3660, you would be able to also get a nice blade and not go over your budget.

Joe Jensen
04-11-2008, 9:37 PM
Good Afternoon, I am going to be upgrading my TS soon and I would like to spend around $700 give or take. So if you had $700 to spend on a TS what would you get try to keep in mind shipping if it has to be shipped. I would like a contractor saw (cabinet saws I believe are way out of this range) with a decent fence.
Thanx

Derek, is it important to you to buy a new saw? If I had $700 to spend, I'd watch the used ads for a cabinet saw, jet or import, with a Biesemeyer style fence. IMHO, the new saws at that price level are WAY below an older cabinet saw. I you can't find a cabinet saw, I would then look for an older contractors saw with a great fence on it...joe

John Yogus
04-11-2008, 9:45 PM
If you don't mind the wait (it's about 2 mos.), I was able to order a Jet Proshop through Lowes for $614. I used a 10% off coupon for this. I got a good hybrid. With this deal and an amazon sale, you'd be able to add a nice blade for $700

Mike Schmalzer
04-11-2008, 11:28 PM
I would say the Rigid if you are going with a contractors saw. I have the 3650 and it is a dream. Cast iron top and wings, nice long rails, the fence is great, and comes with a built in roller base that works great. It is a really nice feature since the saw is around 300 lbs. You should be able to walk out of HD with that saw for under $600 easy.

Bill Wyko
04-11-2008, 11:48 PM
I got a Powermatic 64A with a 52" fence and the table for 649.00. I do wish it had a cast wing on it though.

Ron Bontz
04-12-2008, 12:22 AM
If you are close to St. Louis Mo. There is a fairly new unisaw posted on Craigs list, St. Louis. for 600.00 dollars. Judging by the pic. it's probably worth it. Take a look. Best of luck.

John Shuk
04-12-2008, 1:54 PM
I'd be on the Rigid bandwagon as well.

Jack Vines
04-12-2008, 7:31 PM
If one has any mechanical ability at all and likes the idea of "I did it my way," a used saw is the ultimate leverage of hard-earned capital. All of the fifteen or so table saws I have owned have been used and I've never paid more than 1/3 of the retail price and usually much less, never mind sales tax or shipping. They are out there if you are diligent and patient. Check craigslist first and last thing every day, the local daily and weekly classifieds, put wanted posters on local supermarket bulletin boards. I worked my way up from an old 8" Craftsman to a Unisaw, usually selling the last one for enough to buy the next one.

Most of them if found were bargains because they had been neglected or missing parts or both. Its only fun if you enjoy a challenge and bringing back a near-dead piece of old arn. There are complete, ready-to-run saws for sale, often at a bargain also, but there is a lot more competition for these.

thnx, jack vines

Bruce Glazier
04-12-2008, 10:15 PM
My vote is for the Grizzly.