Used Tool Gloat

[Alan Turner]

This is an unabashed major used tool gloat. Today I have signed the deal on the purchase of a full shop of tools of a recently deceased furniture maker. I bought the whole shop, power tools, hand tools, accessories, and wood in the shop. Everything within 4 walls. The major power tools, all single phase (most with changed motors, but the PM 68 has a phase converter), are:

PM 160, with segmented infeed rollers, adj. bed rollers, and knife grinder. Getting it into the basement will be a trick, as my door opening is 28" max, and the base is 29".

PM 68, 12" TS, with Bies.
PM 1150 - 15" drill press
PM 60 - 8" jointer
PM 26 shaper, with cutters, spindles, etc.
PM 141, 14" BS
Delta 20 BS
Griggio Horiz Slot Mort., with end mills
PM 90, with 23 Sorby turning tools
3hp Murphy Rodgers DC (chip collector)

HS grinder, 8" Delta, and a flat Makita horiz. grinder, with water drip.
All blades, bits, etc.
2 routers (Hitachi plunge and PC fixed base), 2 grinders (small Makita and larger Milw.), Bosch jig saw, Set of new Jap. chisels (brand unknown, but from Japan Woodworker. 3 metal planes, all MF, and 2 Jap. smoothers. Nice and true 6" Bridge City brass try square. Steel rules, Older Leigh DT Jig (of no use to me). Hardware, storage, you name it. A fully equipped shop.
Range of slabbed walnut and cherry, most with crotch, and tropicals, etc. (Bol. Rosewood, Hond. Rosewood, Olive, Zebrano, etc.). I don’t have an inventory of the wood yet. Looks to be about 1000 BF or so. I ran all of the tools, and they run, but need to be cleaned of light surface rust, greased, gone over, etc.

Originally I had planned to flip most of these tools, or trade them out for my own, and sell some of mine. Now, I am not sure. I will definitely sell the 8" jointer, and either the PM 90, or my Delta lathe. Also will sell the 20" Delta BS. As to the wood, I will likely let some of it go as storage is an issue.

The tools are well cared for, but at least 10 years old, as that is when this fellow changed careers. He was fastidious, and so all of the original manuals are in the shop. If anyone is looking for a particular manual, let me know and I will gladly share.

I lusted after the HSM. I don’t know much about the PM 68, and am thinking about it.
There is 100 bf of 4/4, and some 8/4, of the reddish/orangish tropical wood attached, which I do not recognize. Help would be appreciated.
I sweated out this buy for 2 weeks, but the fellow’s sister was a delight to deal with.

Anyone want to trade labor for wood? Anyone got a flatbed with a forklift? Just kidding, sort of.
Alan

[Tyler Howell]

He scores.
Nice haul Alan.

[Greg Tatum]

This is an unabashed major used tool gloat. Today I have signed the deal on the purchase of a full shop of tools of a recently deceased furniture maker. I bought the whole shop, power tools, hand tools, accessories, and wood in the shop. Everything within 4 walls. The major power tools, all single phase (most with changed motors, but the PM 68 has a phase converter), are:

PM 160, with segmented infeed rollers, adj. bed rollers, and knife grinder. Getting it into the basement will be a trick, as my door opening is 28" max, and the base is 29".

PM 68, 12" TS, with Bies.
PM 1150 - 15" drill press
PM 60 - 8" jointer
PM 26 shaper, with cutters, spindles, etc.
PM 141, 14" BS
Delta 20 BS
Griggio Horiz Slot Mort., with end mills
PM 90, with 23 Sorby turning tools
3hp Murphy Rodgers DC (chip collector)

HS grinder, 8" Delta, and a flat Makita horiz. grinder, with water drip.
All blades, bits, etc.
2 routers (Hitachi plunge and PC fixed base), 2 grinders (small Makita and larger Milw.), Bosch jig saw, Set of new Jap. chisels (brand unknown, but from Japan Woodworker. 3 metal planes, all MF, and 2 Jap. smoothers. Nice and true 6" Bridge City brass try square. Steel rules, Older Leigh DT Jig (of no use to me). Hardware, storage, you name it. A fully equipped shop.
Range of slabbed walnut and cherry, most with crotch, and tropicals, etc. (Bol. Rosewood, Hond. Rosewood, Olive, Zebrano, etc.). I don’t have an inventory of the wood yet. Looks to be about 1000 BF or so. I ran all of the tools, and they run, but need to be cleaned of light surface rust, greased, gone over, etc.

Originally I had planned to flip most of these tools, or trade them out for my own, and sell some of mine. Now, I am not sure. I will definitely sell the 8" jointer, and either the PM 90, or my Delta lathe. Also will sell the 20" Delta BS. As to the wood, I will likely let some of it go as storage is an issue.

The tools are well cared for, but at least 10 years old, as that is when this fellow changed careers. He was fastidious, and so all of the original manuals are in the shop. If anyone is looking for a particular manual, let me know and I will gladly share.

I lusted after the HSM. I don’t know much about the PM 68, and am thinking about it.
There is 100 bf of 4/4, and some 8/4, of the reddish/orangish tropical wood attached, which I do not recognize. Help would be appreciated.
I sweated out this buy for 2 weeks, but the fellow’s sister was a delight to deal with.

Anyone want to trade labor for wood? Anyone got a flatbed with a forklift? Just kidding, sort of.
Alan

Great gloat!...If you sell the tri-sqr. I would be interested....
Greg

[Brian Matthews]

I didn't know heaven had internet access...

Awesome score.


Brian

[Paul Held]

I recentely bought out a shop from a woodworker hoobiest, but he had a lot of tools so I'm in a similar situation. I need to decide what to keep and what to sell. It's a real ambarassment of riches. Paul Held

[Jim Becker]

Nice score! And see my email about the wood...:D

[Chris Padilla]

Hey, Mr. Becker...no scecret PMs!! You gotta enough lumber Mr. 100-Acre Wood.... ;)

Alan, why couldn't you be on the Left Coast??? :(

[Jim Becker]

Hey, Mr. Becker...no scecret PMs!! You gotta enough lumber Mr. 100-Acre Wood....

3.82 acres unfortunately...but half of it is wooded!

As to the lumber, like any sawdust addict, I'm always interested in "something special". Pieces of lumber are one of a kind, so when you see something that really floats your boat...buy it. Worse case, you can usually sell it for at least as much as you paid for it. But you knew that already, Mr Maple Boards!

[Todd Burch]

Alan, nice score!! I have purchsed 3 separate estates at different times - and the last one was from the son of a deceased pattern maker. Although, none were as laiden with REAL tools like your's was.

I'm sure you'll have no trouble selling your excess. Just be sure to leave yourself enough room in your shop to be able to continue making your FINE looking furniture and still be able to move around.

I sold my PM60 for $600, but I saw another one quite similar (extra knives, mobile base, same motor, etc.) recently sell for $1,000. The classifieds here on SMC are pretty effective.

Todd

[Steve Clardy]

Oh yea. Wood and Tools. Always a nice score and gloat, new or used. Looks like a shop expansion is in order now? lol
Steve

[Brian Hale]

Nice Score!

I'm interested in the 8" jointer. It's one of the tools i need soonest. Any idea on price?

blhale@direcway.com

Brian

[John Miliunas]

Wow! Major gloat, indeed! Talk about "Instant Shop". Just add water and...No! Wait. Forget the water thing. NOT good for tools. :D Quite the haul, Alan! Enjoy! :cool:

[Dave Malen]

That is woodworker's dream. I could sure use some of that wood. I live in the Phila area too and would love to take a look at it if you want to clear some of it out.

Dave

[Mark Singer]

Alan,
Right place right time! Congradulations!!! I have done exactly the same thing...then my dog licks me and wakes me up!

[Alan Turner]

Todd,
Thanks for the info on the jointer prices. Iwasn't sure. As to the patternmaker, wow. They had some pretty unique tools. My very favorite in the world marking guage is from a pattern shop that closed about a year ago.
I think it was handmade, by cooperation between the patternmakers and the foundry guys, over lunch sort of thing. Make a pattern, cast 100 or so, share with friends.

I got a lot of the handtools, and 3 Emmert's. One No. 2 for me, 2 No. 1's for friends. $175 @. I felt like I was stealing. But,as yousay, the wood was not very adventuresome, but some was really thick. Only wood I took was some fall-ff of 1" BB ply, for jig wood, and it is fabulous. Flat and stable like crazy.

[Todd Burch]

3 Emmerts - no kidding!!! I got 3 Emmerts from the patternmaker!!

[Byron Trantham]

And to think most of us are happy to buy a belt sander! :D

Nice Haul.

[Alan Turner]

In response to a couple of comments/questions. I will be gifting the Leigh DT jig, which is not that generous since it seems outdated. I will keep the 6" BC try square; it is a cutie, and dead on. I will sell my WoodTek 20" planer, and will move the PM 160 planer into my shop. I will be selling my Unisaw when I put the PM 68 into my shop. All of this in a couple of weeks. I will also sell my 1980 vintage Delta DP, taking in the similar vintage PM 1150, again in a couple of weeks. If Ican't sell this stuff locally, I will post in the right forum. I will alos sell the PM 60, 8" jointer, but I think that will sell very quickly locally. And, I will sell at least 10 of the crotch planks of walnut & cherry, as there are 25 total, and space is an issue. LOML is easy, but on this deal I am quickly testing the limits. When I told her that I would probably have to remove the jamb to the basement door, she did an unrestrainable eye-roll; I quickly ducked around the corner.
I am high as a kite over this, and thank all for letting me gloat more than a bit.
Alan

[Dave Anderson NH]

Now how about a detailed post over on the hand tools board about the things we are really interested in. I suppose the electron munchers are interesting, but a bunch of us want to know about the "real" tools you got.

[Michael Ballent]

Wow what a score!!! Congrats, but why do you have to live on the other side of the country... how do you expect me to take some of those worthless tools off your hands. I have it on VERY good authority from the sister of my friend's second cousin twice removed that PM tools are over rated ;)

Man that's a gloat!!!