David Klotz
03-22-2008, 7:54 AM
Folks -
I have just acquired (free, inherited) an early edition Oneida dust collection system in excellent working condition (light hobbyist use only): 1.5hp Leeson motor, wired for 220v, 35 gallon drum. This system is quite away from state of the art. The cyclone has no neutral vane and no air ramp. I'm not sure how big the impeller is.
The filter is internal: the equivalent of a paper shop vac filter on steroids sits threaded over an outlet pipe in the middle of the cyclone, and exhaust air is drawn through the filter media. There is not a lot of filter area. The filter is a hassle to service. See attached photo. (That's the internal filter removed for the photo. The other piece is a silencer pipe.)
I need to decide whether to upgrade. The rest of my dust collection extraction system includes: 1) Jet air handler/fileter mounted to the ceiling; and 2) Ridgid shop vac hooked up to a Clearvue cyclone (similar to an Oneida Dust Deputy set up). I have a full complement of tools to service: table saw, 6" jointer, lunch box planer, router table, 14" band saw, miter saw, drill press, 6x48 belt sander, multiple ROS sanders.
I have done extensive reading on Bill Pentz's site, and understand that this system doesn't meet his minimum criteria for fine dust collection. However, for now, it will have to do, either as is, or with cost worthy upgrades. Here are the upgrade options, as I see them:
1) Oneida Air Systems has a cartridge filter retrofit kit for what seems to be the fairly steep price of $288.00. For that, you get a 100 sq.foot spun bond filter (I don't know the efficiency, yet, Oneida was closed on Good Friday); transition pipes (but no outlet side air box to slow the air column down to reduce turbulence before it hits the filter); and a clean out box that clamps to the bottom of the filter. I think this is overpriced.
2) I also talked at length to Rick Wynn at Wynn Env. Services (www.wynnenv.com (http://www.wynnenv.com)) (I have no affiliation weith Oneida or Wynn), and he was very generous with his time for such a piddling little inquiry. He suggested a high efficientcy Torit-style spun bond filter (probably similar to what Oneida is selling); which will cost arouns $130-150, then build my own air box and a clean out box out of plywood.
3) Upgrade the cyclone by replacing it with a new one. I have not researched this much at all, because I think I am probably underpowered for a proper DC system at 1.5hp/220. I think i would be better off just crying once and getting a proper, and much more powerful system.
If upgrading won't demonstrably improve the performance of this system, I'll use it as is for now, and buy a newer, more powerful one when $$ are in place, and sell this one on CL.
I am inclined to buy a filter from Wynn, and fabricate my own air box and clean out. I would appreciate any Creeker input on which alternative makes the most sense, or any suggestions if I have missed something.
Thanks-David
I have just acquired (free, inherited) an early edition Oneida dust collection system in excellent working condition (light hobbyist use only): 1.5hp Leeson motor, wired for 220v, 35 gallon drum. This system is quite away from state of the art. The cyclone has no neutral vane and no air ramp. I'm not sure how big the impeller is.
The filter is internal: the equivalent of a paper shop vac filter on steroids sits threaded over an outlet pipe in the middle of the cyclone, and exhaust air is drawn through the filter media. There is not a lot of filter area. The filter is a hassle to service. See attached photo. (That's the internal filter removed for the photo. The other piece is a silencer pipe.)
I need to decide whether to upgrade. The rest of my dust collection extraction system includes: 1) Jet air handler/fileter mounted to the ceiling; and 2) Ridgid shop vac hooked up to a Clearvue cyclone (similar to an Oneida Dust Deputy set up). I have a full complement of tools to service: table saw, 6" jointer, lunch box planer, router table, 14" band saw, miter saw, drill press, 6x48 belt sander, multiple ROS sanders.
I have done extensive reading on Bill Pentz's site, and understand that this system doesn't meet his minimum criteria for fine dust collection. However, for now, it will have to do, either as is, or with cost worthy upgrades. Here are the upgrade options, as I see them:
1) Oneida Air Systems has a cartridge filter retrofit kit for what seems to be the fairly steep price of $288.00. For that, you get a 100 sq.foot spun bond filter (I don't know the efficiency, yet, Oneida was closed on Good Friday); transition pipes (but no outlet side air box to slow the air column down to reduce turbulence before it hits the filter); and a clean out box that clamps to the bottom of the filter. I think this is overpriced.
2) I also talked at length to Rick Wynn at Wynn Env. Services (www.wynnenv.com (http://www.wynnenv.com)) (I have no affiliation weith Oneida or Wynn), and he was very generous with his time for such a piddling little inquiry. He suggested a high efficientcy Torit-style spun bond filter (probably similar to what Oneida is selling); which will cost arouns $130-150, then build my own air box and a clean out box out of plywood.
3) Upgrade the cyclone by replacing it with a new one. I have not researched this much at all, because I think I am probably underpowered for a proper DC system at 1.5hp/220. I think i would be better off just crying once and getting a proper, and much more powerful system.
If upgrading won't demonstrably improve the performance of this system, I'll use it as is for now, and buy a newer, more powerful one when $$ are in place, and sell this one on CL.
I am inclined to buy a filter from Wynn, and fabricate my own air box and clean out. I would appreciate any Creeker input on which alternative makes the most sense, or any suggestions if I have missed something.
Thanks-David