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Matt Woessner
02-25-2008, 10:18 PM
A little background on my jointer. It is an old craftsman that my wife's grandpa had before he passed away. I was using it tonight and noticed that it was bogging down, and it has never bogged down on me. Then she just froze, I figured this would happen at some point it is over 20 years old. I reckon the old motor was pretty tired. Now I need to replace the motor. Does anyone know of a good supplier for small electric motors? It is a 1/2 HP, 3450 rpm, frame 56z Thanks for all the help.

Greg Cuetara
02-25-2008, 10:28 PM
no experience with these motors but check out harbor freight...they seem to have a few for decent prices.

Matt Meiser
02-25-2008, 10:33 PM
I've had good luck with a HF motor to replace a bad motor on an inexpensive bandsaw. From what I've read, they typically burn up right away if they aren't good. Another easy source is Tractor Supply or probably other farm supply stores. Grainger would have what you need, but probably for what a new jointer would cost.

Edit: Tractor Supply (http://www.tractorsupply.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay_10551_10001_28674_______14239%7C142 44%7C14248%7C28674?listingPage=true), $140; Grainger (http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/6K184), $182;

Leo Graywacz
02-25-2008, 10:34 PM
Grainger.com They will have the motor you need.

Tim Thomas
02-25-2008, 10:39 PM
Check out Grizzly.com. They sell motors and I think the prices are pretty good. They are frame size 56, TEFC, 3450 RPM, so you should be able to swap it out with no problem at all. You can probably even upgrade the motor to get more HP without spending more money. But I suggest that you consult with someone more experienced than I to see how far you can go and still be safe on a smaller jointer.


http://www.grizzly.com/products/Motor-1-2-HP-Single-Phase-3450-RPM-TEFC-110V-220V/H5375

http://www.grizzly.com/products/Motor-1-HP-Single-Phase-3450-RPM-TEFC-110V-220V/G2533

Matt Woessner
02-25-2008, 10:41 PM
I've had good luck with a HF motor to replace a bad motor on an inexpensive bandsaw. From what I've read, they typically burn up right away if they aren't good. Another easy source is Tractor Supply or probably other farm supply stores. Grainger would have what you need, but probably for what a new jointer would cost.


Grainger is higher than a cats back. Harbor freight has some good prices so far in my search. Thanks

Matt Woessner
02-25-2008, 10:46 PM
Check out Grizzly.com. They sell motors and I think the prices are pretty good. They are frame size 56, TEFC, 3450 RPM, so you should be able to swap it out with no problem at all. You can probably even upgrade the motor to get more HP without spending more money. But I suggest that you consult with someone more experienced than I to see how far you can go and still be safe on a smaller jointer.


http://www.grizzly.com/products/Motor-1-2-HP-Single-Phase-3450-RPM-TEFC-110V-220V/H5375

http://www.grizzly.com/products/Motor-1-HP-Single-Phase-3450-RPM-TEFC-110V-220V/G2533

Thanks for the help!! Grizzly looks like the place so far. I wonder how much horse is too much. I don't want to replace a .5 hp with much over 1hp ... or do I? They are so close in price the .5hp to 1hp, I don't want my jointer to explode.

Tim Thomas
02-25-2008, 10:47 PM
One last link from Grizzly. I think this motor should match yours exactly and it is just $99, with another $14 for shipping.

http://www.grizzly.com/outlet/G5002

Tom Henderson2
02-25-2008, 11:46 PM
Are you sure it is the motor? Have you removed the drive belt and tried to turn it by hand? Have you verified that the tool arbor bearings are still OK?

A local motor shop should be able to troubleshoot the existing motor for you, and replace the bearings (if that is the problem) for considerably less than a new motor....

It's worth a try. Some of the Chinese motors are pretty good. Some are very poorly balanced and won't last too long. Dollar for dollar, rehabbing the old motor may be a better value.

Worth thinking about.

-Tom H.

David Gunn
02-26-2008, 2:53 PM
You said it was a 56Z frame motor. The "Z" indicates that there is something special with the shaft. Either length or thickness or something. The "Z" can vary from manufacturer to manufacturer, i.e. a Baldor 56Z frame motor and a Dayton 56Z frame motor will not have the same shaft.

Just check what you have compared to what you are going to order, especially the shaft size.

Anthony Whitesell
02-26-2008, 2:57 PM
Try www.surpluscenter.com (http://www.surpluscenter.com)

They have all kinds of motors, casters, bearings, etc.

Kyle Kraft
02-26-2008, 3:09 PM
Matt, you could theoretically put on a 100hp motor and it won't explode. As long as the RPM's are the same as your old motor, the hp doesn't really matter. If you don't downsize the hp then you'll only enhance performance. Just keep cutter head speed the same and you're golden.

Gene O. Carpenter
02-26-2008, 3:17 PM
Matt,
If you're interested I have a motor exactly like yours that I finagled under warranty when I worked there. I believe it was source 113. but that's going from memory! It's off the 6-1/8" Craftsman , I haven't used the jointer in a few years and the motor is just sitting here. If you're interested make me a reasonable offer + actual shipping and it's your..It might even have the short power cord with molded on plug, as I said this is all from memory, I even remember where it's sitting!
Gene

Leo Graywacz
02-26-2008, 4:01 PM
Kyle, putting a motor on there with to much HP can damage the parts it is connected to bu applying to much torque. Going from a 1/2 HP to 1 HP shouldn't be a big deal. But if he put a 3HP motor on it and fed the stock quick enough the 3HP motor might be able to bend the shaft or over torque the bearings. To much HP is not always a good thing.

Matt Woessner
02-27-2008, 8:05 PM
Gene I sent you a PM, hopefully we can figure something out. Thanks