Is this a Plastic Resin Glue?

[Glen Blanchard]

I am looking for a plastic resin glue, and although this appears to be just that, nowhere does it actually say "plastic resin glue". It appears to be geared for veneering. Does anyone know if this is a plastic resin glue?

http://woodcraft.com/images/family/web5350.jpg

Detailed information can be found here......

http://woodcraft.com/family.aspx?familyid=5350&mode=details#tabs

[Randy Klein]

I'm not sure about the one you posted, but this one (http://nelsonpaint.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=Urac-PT&Category_Code=UA)is (I believe) the plastic resin glue David Marks always uses.

I have used this as well and Nelson Paints is the manufacturer (I think) and the only place I found that sold in pints.

[Jamie Buxton]

"Plastic Resin Glue" is a product name. It is DAP's name for a urea-fomaldehyde glue which is sold as a dry powder to which you add water. That stuff from Woodcraft looks to be equivalent to DAP's product.

[Rob Wright]

Glen -

I think that the "urea" gives this away t mean urea formaldehyde glue. Not the same as plastic resin. You can order DAP plastic resin from online sources (DAP makes it)

- Rob

[Glen Blanchard]

Glen -

I think that the "urea" gives this away t mean urea formaldehyde glue. Not the same as plastic resin. You can order DAP plastic resin from online sources (DAP makes it)

- Rob

I thought that that is exactly what DAP's plastic resin glue is - "urea formaldehyde glue".

[Doug Shepard]

I'm not sure about the one you posted, but this one (http://nelsonpaint.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=Urac-PT&Category_Code=UA)is (I believe) the plastic resin glue David Marks always uses.

I have used this as well and Nelson Paints is the manufacturer (I think) and the only place I found that sold in pints.

That's the only one I've used and it worked great for bent laminations. I dont think it's quite the same as the DAP type plastic resin glues though. I think those are mixed with water. The Nelson Paint stuff is a liquid resin and powdered hardener.

[Rob Wright]

I thought that that is exactly what DAP's plastic resin glue is - "urea formaldehyde glue".

Glen - my bad as the kids say. I agree that the DAP Plastic resin glue is urea formaldehyde glue....

sorry - Rob

[Rob Wright]

I'm not sure about the one you posted, but this one (http://nelsonpaint.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=Urac-PT&Category_Code=UA)is (I believe) the plastic resin glue David Marks always uses.

I have used this as well and Nelson Paints is the manufacturer (I think) and the only place I found that sold in pints.

Randy - is that the stuff that appears to be a purple tint when he squeezes it out of his bottle? I watched an episode of WW that he built a bent lamination lamp that had three laminations that were then formed together. I remember that he used a plastic resin type glue.

Thanks -

[Randy Klein]

Randy - is that the stuff that appears to be a purple tint when he squeezes it out of his bottle? I watched an episode of WW that he built a bent lamination lamp that had three laminations that were then formed together. I remember that he used a plastic resin type glue.

Thanks -

Here's a link (http://www.djmarks.com/stories/faq/Where_can_I_get_the_SlowSetting_Plastic_Resin_Glue _you_often_use_46688.asp) to his FAQ that addresses it.

As for the color, I wouldn't call it purple, but I'm colorblind:D. But every time he says a slow setting glue and it's not yellow, I believe this is what it is.

[Rich Schneider]

From my understanding the Pro Glue is a urea formalehyde glue ....I just purchased some of it, but haven't had a chance to use it..I don't know the specific makeup of it since the MSDS is not really forthcoming about the product other than it has 1-2% formaldehyde and states that it is a modified UF resin...I typically use the DAP Weldwood glue and it is a urea formaldehyde polymer glue (90-95% UF polymer by weight and 1-5% formaldehyde and 1-5% barium chloride)..you can buy DAP Weldwood at nearly any ACE or True Value hardware store.

[Glen Blanchard]

I remember that he used a plastic resin type glue.



Does he ever use anything else? ;)

[Bryan Berguson]

I bought some of the DAP plastic resin stuff but haven't tried it yet. Nobody ever said so I'm wondering, Is there any length of shelf life for mixed glue or do you mix just what you think you'll need and everything mixed and unused is wasted?

Bryan

[Glen Blanchard]

I bought some of the DAP plastic resin stuff but haven't tried it yet. Nobody ever said so I'm wondering, Is there any length of shelf life for mixed glue or do you mix just what you think you'll need and everything mixed and unused is wasted?

Bryan

I have read that there definitely is a shelf life for the DAP plastic resin glue. If memory serves, it's about 12 months.

[Bryan Berguson]

I have read that there definitely is a shelf life for the DAP plastic resin glue. If memory serves, it's about 12 months.


That wouldn't be a problem. I guess I'll mix some up and try it finally.

Thanks!

Bryan

[Bryan Berguson]

you can buy DAP Weldwood at nearly any ACE or True Value hardware store.

Unless you live in North Central Pennsylvania. :( I ended up having to order it through a True Value. It took a week but I didn't have to pay shipping.

Bryan

[John Fry]

I bought some of the DAP plastic resin stuff but haven't tried it yet. Nobody ever said so I'm wondering, Is there any length of shelf life for mixed glue or do you mix just what you think you'll need and everything mixed and unused is wasted?

BryanYES!

Bryan there is a very short life after you mix it......Like a few hours until it hardens. :D So you mix what you need and a little extra so you don't get into trouble by running out.

As has been said, they say the unmixed powder has a life of about 12 months.

[Russ Filtz]

Does the PRG off-gas formaldehyde like FEMA trailers? :eek:

Might last longer if you transfer it to glass containers. Plastic technically does not prevent air/water vapor from leaking through, albeit VERY slowly! That's why you see the better brands of brake fluid, etc., still supplied in metal cans (or it could all be marketing!).

[Bryan Berguson]

YES!

Bryan there is a very short life after you mix it......Like a few hours until it hardens. :D So you mix what you need and a little extra so you don't get into trouble by running out.

As has been said, they say the unmixed powder has a life of about 12 months.


Thanks John. From Glen's post I thought the mixed glue was good for 12 months.

Bryan

[Glen Blanchard]

Thanks John. From Glen's post I thought the mixed glue was good for 12 months.

Bryan

Sorry for the confusion. I should have clarified that the shelf life to which I was referring is the shelf life of the powder in its container. I had read a post recently from someone who bought DAP's product, and upon mixing it for the first time, realized that it would not set - at all. The reason? Old product.

[Todd Jensen]

I recently had a chance to use the DAP plastic resin glue. It worked great despite being at least 2 years old. I found that using a paint mixer that you chuck in your drill worked really well and that it helped to add the water painfully slow while mixing. I then used a cheap strainer that I bought at the grocery store to pour the resin into a funnel into an empty glue bottle. This helped speed application and then I just came back with a veneer glue roller or paint roller to spread it evenly.
As a first time user, I really liked the glue. It dries rock hard so wipe off any excess with a wet rag immediately - it is so hard once dry that it is difficult to scrape or sand.

[Rich Schneider]

There are a couple things about using DAP Weldwood...one when you mix it, add the product to the water, not the water to the product that way you limit the formation of lumps when mixing....also, what I've found is I like to add a touch more water than what it calls for on the label...for a small batch I start with 5 tablespoons of Weldwood and 2 tablespoons of water....add the Weldwood to the water, mix it up, and look at the consistency...typically I end up adding about another 1/3 tablespoon to that and mix it again.....I typically only mix what I can apply/assemble in a 5 to 10 minute time frame....even though the label says it has a longer open time than that at 70 degree F, I've found that for the veneer and bent lamination work I do that 10 minutes is the outside most that it will stay fluid enough to make the slight adjustments and get clamp pressure/check alignment before it starts to tack up enough to make things more difficult.... it can be slightly more difficult to scrape than a PVA glue however with a properly sharpened cabinet scraper I haven't had any problem.....I haven't had any trouble with sanding it ....remember a little bit of glue goes a long way...for veneers I only cover the substrate...for bent laminations I'll cover both surfaces.....you don't want a dripping gluey mess...

[Brian Fulkerson]

I use the little plastic scoops that come with baby formula containers. They are perfect for mixing the water and powder perfectly. This product has worked great for me so far.