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Craig Colvin
01-15-2008, 1:33 AM
I have been teaching woodworking to a group of middle school kids for a couple of hours a week for the past 8 weeks. We built a book rack, a desk clock, wooden pens, and a bowling game in that time. I have now been asked to do an advanced class and I'm at a complete loss for ideas of what to do next. The sessions are 2 hours, 1 day a week for 8 weeks so we have 16 hours of instruction. The other constraint is that materials need to cost under $25/kid.

Anybody have any ideas of some projects that kids would like that would teach them some advanced skills? They are already proficient on all of the machines, so I'm thinking it's more about joinery techniques or something like that. Help!

Mike McCann
01-15-2008, 8:30 AM
How about small jewelery boxes with box joints should be able to come in under 25 dollars.

Brodie Brickey
01-15-2008, 9:14 AM
If you have access to lathes, hand mirrors come to mind. Below is a link to a demonstration John Lucas did on hand mirrors. The specs are at the bottom of the page.

http://www.ovwg.org/new-ovwg-site/Meetings/JohnLucas/index.htm

The other thing that comes to mind is an article from about 3-4 years ago in the AAW magazine. A turner took a 2x4, cut it up and made a platter out of it. He used something like a herringbone interlocking patter in it. This may not work if you have mini lathes though.

Craig Colvin
01-15-2008, 3:50 PM
Thanks for the ideas. A jewelry box would work well. I would like to do a turning project but I only have 8 lathes and 10 kids. I'll have to think about that and see if I could easily split them up. The problem with this age group is that they can do a lot of things independently (like drilling, scrollsaw, crosscutting on the SawStop, using the laser engraver), they still need hand holding with some of the other tools. So breaking them up into groups I have to have tasks that one group can do independently.

Steven Wilson
01-15-2008, 5:09 PM
Well Craig, my kids who aren't in Middle School yet (9 & 10, both in 4th grade) are building their own ice fishing rods and want to make their own camping knives and leather sheaths. Starting with good knife blanks (North Coast Knives) they'll learn to;

cut and shape handle blank with the scroll saw
use a stationary belt sander for shaping the handle
mixing and using epoxy (they've learn that through rod building)
cutting brass with a hacksaw
peening metal (which is very cool)
finishing and buffing
designing a simple leatherwork project
cutting and forming leather
punching sewing holes
leather decoration (they're learning that now on some other projects)
sewing leather
leather rivets and snaps
finishing leather

With that they'l have a very good knife to use while camping, etc and then they'll learn how to establish and maintain a sharp edge.

Raul Hernandez
01-15-2008, 5:18 PM
When I was that age, (12 or so), we made lazy susans about 12" across. We had our choice from several different wood species, as we had a lot of smallish scrap-size pieces ranging from about 1/2" to 2" wide. It was fun because it was really the only way at that age and that budget to work with exotics like zebrawood or padauk, and because of the selection each kids' project was totally unique. We freehanded the circles at the bandsaw and then cleaned up the edges on the disc sander, and rounded over the top edge at the router table.

Rob Wright
01-15-2008, 5:52 PM
How about an old school toolbox?

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You could add some box joints or half blind dovetails with a jig. The laser engraver could add an additional step to the project for the kids to personalize it? I would have loved that at my age being able to use a router, lathe, table saw, planer, and LASER ENGRAVER!

have fun....

Kurt Forbes
01-15-2008, 6:29 PM
wooden dragsters are fun at that age
look for a company called pitsco on the web or pm me and I will send you links
they have alot of other projects also

chris yount
01-15-2008, 7:25 PM
You can let the kids create their own sword and shields.A friend and I did this at about the same age.The great part is they create their own designs of the wood and finish.Its been many years ago but If my memory is correct we did leather hilts and all.
chris

Keith Carscadden
01-15-2008, 10:57 PM
This link describes two books that might give you ideas:

http://home.earthlink.net/~mchkee/

The 4th chapter of Builder Boards documents a service learning project where nine eighth graders measured, cut, notched, beveled, sanded, oiled, stapled, glued, and videotaped the construction process. After serious deliberation, which was an important part of the process, they chose a women's shelter to receive the set.


Keith

Gary Breckenridge
01-16-2008, 12:50 AM
:cool:I'd suggest a simple tool box, 15 long, 5 high and 7 deep. The top and bottom out of 1/2 ply with the rest out of 3/4 pine. Screw and glue it together then stain and varnish. Add brass hinges, hasp and handle. This toolbox covers all the basic skills and will last the maker for years,:cool:

Craig Colvin
01-16-2008, 3:59 AM
:cool:I'd suggest a simple tool box, 15 long, 5 high and 7 deep. The top and bottom out of 1/2 ply with the rest out of 3/4 pine. Screw and glue it together then stain and varnish. Add brass hinges, hasp and handle. This toolbox covers all the basic skills and will last the maker for years,:cool:

I've thought about this but it only covers 2 class sessions. The class is also 50/50 girl/boy and the girls typically aren't interested in a toolbox (some are but most aren't)

Paul Johnstone
01-16-2008, 9:27 AM
How about the old standby of a spice rack..

Or maybe a small cabinent that could be hung over the toilet to keep bathroom supplies in. I built a bunch of those for people out of odds and ends of oak plywood. It would be a good way to introduce them to working with plywood (gluing on hardwood edging, making face frames, maybe even making a door for it, euro hinges, etc).

I would think you'd have no problem buying the supplies for 10 for $250, as you can make them only 4" or 6" deep.

James Jones
01-16-2008, 12:00 PM
Mr. Colvin,

How about each student design their own bandsaw box. There are many patterns available to use if the students don't want to design their own. The whole process would include wood preparation, layout, sawing with bandsaw, sanding, and finishing. The material would be inexpensive since they can be made from plain wood to exotics. Most material dimensions will be around 7" thick x 8" tall x 12 to 14" long. Glue 7 boards together to make a block to cut the box out of. Just a suggestion.

JamesHuntsville

Irvin Cooper
01-16-2008, 2:54 PM
Craig,

I recommend bluebird houses. I started doing this a few years ago with my kids and their classes, and I am still asked to come back every spring to the school.
The plan I have use uses 1 cedar fence board per house. I have an arrangement where the local Lowes donates the lumber and supplies, including kid-sized apron. I cut all of the pieces in advance, put them all in a 1-gallon ziplock bag, which makes construction go much easier.

It has become quite a hit around the school with other schools calling to ask if they can do the same. We only do it once a year for this one school, due to limited time available on my part.

Let me know if you would like further information or a pattern for the plan and I will see what I can come up with.

Irv

keith ouellette
01-16-2008, 3:46 PM
How about a two step step stool/chair. Nothing very fancy. The sides could be made out of birch plywood and you could finish the side edges in the same wood you use for the step/seat and introduce them to edge banding.

Daniel Rabinovitz
01-16-2008, 3:49 PM
How about a:
Serving Tray - where they design the handles
Corner shelf - for their trophies or "nick-nack's"

Tom Walz
01-17-2008, 11:31 AM
checkout the coffee filter holder in another thread. Wouldn't take the whole time but it's pretty cool.

Maybe a suite (?) of matching kitchen stuff - knife rack, towel holder, paper towel, spice rack.

Chris Dodge
01-17-2008, 12:16 PM
I didn't read through the other posts above so this might have been suggested already. If you have access to a lathe then have the kids make light house lights using alternation woods. I built one in 7th grade and used walnut and maple in alternating one inch thick layers glued together then cut to the shape of a light house. We then mounted little lights like the old christmas lights on the top. The kids learn a little about electrical wiring and learn to use a lathe properly. The main caution is if you cut too deep on the lathe then the lighthouse can explode if not glued properly.

Steve Mellott
01-17-2008, 3:18 PM
Does everyone have to make the same thing? Since they are already proficient on most of the tools, give them a list of choices (many are already in this thread) and let them choose their own project.

Steve

Chris Yarish
01-23-2008, 9:48 AM
I will give a brief list of some of the things my grade 7-9 kids do, then try to get some pics up later.

"Yang" jewellery box--As name suggests, it looks like 50% of the Yin and Yang. Bandsaw it to shape from template, drill hole in corner for dowel 'hinge', cut off lid on bs, drill large hole for 'jewels'.

Gumball machine: Probably seen this in candy stores. Looks like a face..the 1" dowel nose is the piece that allows candy to come out of wooden body.

Curio shelf

CD rack: 2 6" pieces of 1 x 6 for ends. 1 12" long piece of 1 x 6 split from same piece 1/3, 2/3 on bandsaw to form the bottom and back support. Nailed together.

I have 5 scroll saws and about 500 patterns. This keeps the timid kids busy.

Super Clip: A extra-large clothes-pin. Hinge mechanism is fairly inexpensive.

2 x 4 furniture. I have a chair and table some of the more experienced kids can tackle.

Coat/tie/belt rack

Spaghetti measuring device

3 different birdhouses

Paper towel rack

Lathe:
Bowls from laminated 2 x 8 pine. Not a great wood, but it turns easily enough for kids

Miniature 12" baseball bat/fish bonker.

Candlestick holder

paper towel rack

spinning tops

goblets